1 00:00:01,013 --> 00:00:03,763 (pigs squealing) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:05,825 --> 00:00:08,908 (machinery whirring) 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 5 00:00:57,302 --> 00:01:00,052 (dramatic music) 6 00:01:03,227 --> 00:01:05,232 - [Reporter] As President Regan was preparing to deliver 7 00:01:05,232 --> 00:01:07,340 his weekly radio address from Camp David, 8 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:09,260 he ad libbed thoughts on the economy 9 00:01:09,260 --> 00:01:11,380 during the microphone check, not intended 10 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:13,150 to be a part of his speech. 11 00:01:13,150 --> 00:01:15,330 - [Reagan] My fellow Americans, I talked to you 12 00:01:15,330 --> 00:01:17,780 on a number of occasions about the economic problems 13 00:01:17,780 --> 00:01:20,814 and opportunities our nation faces. 14 00:01:20,814 --> 00:01:23,000 And I'm prepared to tell you, it's a hell of a mess. 15 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:25,590 - The hard line being taken by the Reagan Administration 16 00:01:25,590 --> 00:01:26,900 concerning the air controllers strike-- 17 00:01:26,900 --> 00:01:29,560 - The Supreme Court delivered a potentially staggering 18 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:30,750 setback to labor unions nationwide. 19 00:01:30,750 --> 00:01:34,480 - And it comes at a time when union officials are charging 20 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,650 there is a growing campaign in this country to break unions. 21 00:01:37,650 --> 00:01:39,500 - [Reporter] The operation will be non-union. 22 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,350 Salaries will be cut in half. 23 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:43,640 - [Reporter] Wilson Foods declared bankruptcy. 24 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,540 With the stroke of a pen, it could stay in business 25 00:01:46,540 --> 00:01:50,590 but void it's labor contract and slash workers' salaries 26 00:01:50,590 --> 00:01:51,810 by 40 to 50%. 27 00:01:51,810 --> 00:01:52,643 - [Reporter] These are hard times 28 00:01:52,643 --> 00:01:53,773 for the meat-packing industry. 29 00:01:53,773 --> 00:01:55,320 - [Reporter] Some union labor has taken 30 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,003 almost 50% wage and benefit cuts 31 00:01:57,003 --> 00:01:58,700 to keep their jobs and their companies afloat. 32 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:00,780 - [Reporter] Wage and concessions or-- 33 00:02:00,780 --> 00:02:05,520 - At least I'm taking some money home, instead of nothing. 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,084 - [Reporter] In Waterloo, Iowa, a shutdown. 35 00:02:08,084 --> 00:02:09,954 (multiple voices talking at once) 36 00:02:09,954 --> 00:02:11,960 - [Reporter] Meat packers facing 40% pay cuts 37 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,930 go packing bricks against a truck at a Wilson Foods. 38 00:02:14,930 --> 00:02:16,280 - [Reporter] Picket lines in spite of 39 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,659 a bumper to bumper automobile barricade. 40 00:02:18,659 --> 00:02:23,000 As Hormel's flagship plant opened the second week-- 41 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,597 - [Repoerter] Is reached after city officials said 42 00:02:24,597 --> 00:02:28,505 the situation at Hormel is beyond their control. 43 00:02:28,505 --> 00:02:31,789 - This is not Austin anymore, it's Hormel, Minnesota! 44 00:02:31,789 --> 00:02:34,251 (protestors shouting) 45 00:02:34,251 --> 00:02:37,001 (dramatic music) 46 00:02:44,684 --> 00:02:48,272 (crowd applauding) 47 00:02:48,272 --> 00:02:50,174 - Austin, Minnesota. 48 00:02:50,174 --> 00:02:52,306 It's not just about Austin, Minnesota. 49 00:02:52,306 --> 00:02:53,279 (crowd cheering) 50 00:02:53,279 --> 00:02:57,842 Austin is the cavalry for workers in this nation. 51 00:02:57,842 --> 00:03:01,259 Workers somewhere, some time, some place, 52 00:03:04,366 --> 00:03:09,366 must stand up and say "never is a never!" 53 00:03:10,691 --> 00:03:12,635 We want jobs and justice. 54 00:03:12,635 --> 00:03:15,552 (crowd applauding) 55 00:03:19,986 --> 00:03:20,819 Someday. 56 00:03:39,430 --> 00:03:41,203 - Can I give you a pamphlet here? 57 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,430 So you can see what's going on in the Austin plant? 58 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:46,263 Thank you. 59 00:03:47,591 --> 00:03:50,820 (knocking on door) 60 00:03:50,820 --> 00:03:51,653 Hello. 61 00:03:51,653 --> 00:03:53,026 - Can I give you one of these about the (mumbling) rate 62 00:03:53,026 --> 00:03:54,193 and the plant? 63 00:03:55,085 --> 00:03:57,682 Okay, thank you. - All righty, thank you. 64 00:03:57,682 --> 00:04:02,682 (children chattering) (light music) 65 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:05,650 - [Woman] Aren't you Mr. Anderson? 66 00:04:05,650 --> 00:04:07,220 Hi! 67 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:08,531 I don't know if you remember me. 68 00:04:08,531 --> 00:04:09,461 - We had the good year. 69 00:04:09,461 --> 00:04:10,294 - You did, yep. 70 00:04:10,294 --> 00:04:15,150 - I mean that was, I sure hope it gets straightened out. 71 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:18,120 - I'd like to see something settled. 72 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,830 And I understand your side of it, I really do. 73 00:04:21,830 --> 00:04:23,802 I wouldn't like to take a cut either. 74 00:04:23,802 --> 00:04:24,750 - [Woman] Yeah. 75 00:04:24,750 --> 00:04:28,530 - I wish everybody good luck, and I hope 76 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:31,410 they don't have trouble with the company. 77 00:04:31,410 --> 00:04:35,047 I'm retired, and I know if I was still working 78 00:04:35,047 --> 00:04:36,847 and I lost my job, it'd be terrible. 79 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:40,668 - [Man] Could I talk to your husband? 80 00:04:40,668 --> 00:04:41,690 - [Woman] No, but there's something 81 00:04:41,690 --> 00:04:44,357 I would just love to say to you. 82 00:04:45,330 --> 00:04:48,540 Aren't you guys happy working at the Hormel plant? 83 00:04:48,540 --> 00:04:50,150 - Under the current conditions, no. 84 00:04:50,150 --> 00:04:53,095 We were happy making $10.69, and when the Hormel plant 85 00:04:53,095 --> 00:04:54,063 treated us decent. - [Woman] Why do you stay? 86 00:04:54,063 --> 00:04:55,797 Why do you stay at a place you're not happy? 87 00:04:55,797 --> 00:04:58,513 You know, nobody should stay, if they're not happy. 88 00:04:58,513 --> 00:04:59,511 - We don't have all the money in the world, 89 00:04:59,511 --> 00:05:00,432 like the Knowltons do. 90 00:05:00,432 --> 00:05:01,780 - [Woman] Get another job, there are so many people 91 00:05:01,780 --> 00:05:04,210 that would love to have your job, 92 00:05:04,210 --> 00:05:08,640 at $8.75 an hour, and all those nice benefits, 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,470 when we were your age, we weren't making even what you are. 94 00:05:11,470 --> 00:05:13,460 - [Man] Then give us a fair shake, 95 00:05:13,460 --> 00:05:14,995 like you got a fair shake. 96 00:05:14,995 --> 00:05:17,495 (door closes) 97 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:23,019 - Hmm. 98 00:05:23,019 --> 00:05:25,519 (light music) 99 00:05:58,951 --> 00:06:01,890 (people chattering) 100 00:06:01,890 --> 00:06:06,890 - If we got to give up 23% wages and 30% cut in benefits, 101 00:06:06,900 --> 00:06:09,490 when the company's making $30 million, 102 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:10,460 what are we gonna have to give 'em 103 00:06:10,460 --> 00:06:12,260 when they show a loss for a quarter? 104 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:18,270 - Two years ago, under the incentive program, 105 00:06:18,270 --> 00:06:22,550 my last incentive check in the hard cut in the new plant, 106 00:06:22,550 --> 00:06:27,023 I grilled $637 for 47 hours of work. 107 00:06:28,776 --> 00:06:32,400 After the incentive program was taken away, 108 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,733 I went down to $409 a week. 109 00:06:36,250 --> 00:06:41,250 Today, I'm making $312, working twice as hard 110 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:44,160 for the same amount of hours. 111 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:47,011 It's ridiculous. 112 00:06:47,011 --> 00:06:50,011 (people chattering) 113 00:06:51,750 --> 00:06:54,150 - My father worked for George A. Hormel plant 114 00:06:55,270 --> 00:06:56,300 for many years. 115 00:06:56,300 --> 00:06:59,720 He was also a very proud man, he was a hard worker, 116 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,570 he was proud of his products, he was in the days 117 00:07:02,570 --> 00:07:04,730 of heavy production, he went out on a stretcher 118 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:07,760 one day from the plant. 119 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,313 My husband now, I'm proud to be a wife of a hog cutter. 120 00:07:12,670 --> 00:07:15,870 I'm proud of the products, but I don't like the way 121 00:07:15,870 --> 00:07:18,980 they're treating my family, or my husband, 122 00:07:18,980 --> 00:07:22,007 or anyone else who's ever worked for that plant. 123 00:07:22,007 --> 00:07:23,500 (crowd applauding) 124 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,970 - It's a real quagmire of a situation, 125 00:07:25,970 --> 00:07:28,273 and people are really getting hurt. 126 00:07:33,870 --> 00:07:37,240 Their pride is hurt because they can't fulfill 127 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,580 the needs of their family, and they've somehow 128 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:44,580 got on welfare programs, and people are very angry, 129 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,270 hurt, upset, frustrated, and it's difficult 130 00:07:49,270 --> 00:07:51,813 to vent your frustrations in the proper direction. 131 00:07:53,020 --> 00:07:55,200 - The utility workers make more, the meter readers 132 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,380 make more, the garbage collectors make more, 133 00:07:58,380 --> 00:07:59,483 the city workers make more. 134 00:07:59,483 --> 00:08:01,670 - A guy that works with Wes, or did work 135 00:08:01,670 --> 00:08:03,370 with my husband at the plant just quit, 136 00:08:03,370 --> 00:08:05,410 he got hired at the city, he's starting 137 00:08:05,410 --> 00:08:06,750 at 11 something an hour. 138 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:08,110 - Yep. - He's working for the city. 139 00:08:08,110 --> 00:08:09,820 - Yeah, but I don't begrudge anybody 140 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:13,400 that's making 30, 40, $50,000. 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,850 But let us live in our house. 142 00:08:15,850 --> 00:08:19,570 Let us live in our $32,000 house. 143 00:08:21,182 --> 00:08:24,349 (muffled choir music) 144 00:08:30,103 --> 00:08:33,186 (indistinct singing) 145 00:08:40,570 --> 00:08:42,850 - In Austin, Minnesota, 22,000 people, 146 00:08:42,850 --> 00:08:45,820 we're in a kind of a little world by ourselves down here. 147 00:08:45,820 --> 00:08:47,930 These are the people that we go to church with, 148 00:08:47,930 --> 00:08:50,300 these are the people who we go to grocery stores with, 149 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:52,480 we meet on the street, we meet in the theater, 150 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,410 we meet in various forms of recreation, 151 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:57,810 we rub shoulders with them. 152 00:08:57,810 --> 00:09:00,020 Do we care about our employees? 153 00:09:00,020 --> 00:09:01,710 Yes we do. 154 00:09:01,710 --> 00:09:04,650 But in the long term, we don't want to go the way 155 00:09:04,650 --> 00:09:08,612 of many other packers who realized too late 156 00:09:08,612 --> 00:09:10,640 that their costs were out of line, 157 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,963 and then tried to recover, and couldn't. 158 00:09:14,562 --> 00:09:17,062 (light music) 159 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,400 - [Narrator] It's been written that Jay 160 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,620 was a born innovator, and remembered 161 00:09:29,620 --> 00:09:31,530 for his social conscience. 162 00:09:31,530 --> 00:09:34,630 His thoughtful understanding of and concern for 163 00:09:34,630 --> 00:09:37,160 the welfare of the working man was surely 164 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,160 what gave rise to the many benefits 165 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,883 that have been made available to Hormel personnel. 166 00:09:42,820 --> 00:09:45,790 He initiated the first guaranteed annual wage. 167 00:09:45,790 --> 00:09:48,800 There was also a first of its kind sharing profit plan 168 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,890 for the workers, that paid out a share 169 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:52,880 of the year's profits to each of them. 170 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,560 Perhaps that explains why everyone at Hormel 171 00:09:55,560 --> 00:09:58,293 strives for quality, and efficiency. 172 00:09:59,530 --> 00:10:03,943 - I've worked for Hormel, it'll be 43 years this year, 173 00:10:06,260 --> 00:10:11,260 and if it were necessary, as a survival, 174 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,440 I would be all for it. 175 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,330 We've done it before. 176 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:21,350 Over the many, many times. 177 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:25,830 But this, I think, is just the mood of the industry 178 00:10:25,830 --> 00:10:28,170 and they're jumping on the bandwagon 179 00:10:28,170 --> 00:10:31,730 to be one of 'em to say. "we were able to do it too." 180 00:10:31,730 --> 00:10:36,040 Or I think, if they were to have left our wages, 181 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:41,040 at our present standard, people would have really used them 182 00:10:41,770 --> 00:10:44,620 as a shining example that in hard times, 183 00:10:44,620 --> 00:10:47,751 if you really have good productivity, 184 00:10:47,751 --> 00:10:50,648 good relationships with your employees, 185 00:10:50,648 --> 00:10:54,193 that you're able to hand the bad times. 186 00:10:55,361 --> 00:10:58,200 - I'd hope that they have enough of the vision 187 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,320 that I think I must have for the welfare 188 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,510 of the long term future of the company, you know, 189 00:11:03,510 --> 00:11:07,660 that would say we can do no more. 190 00:11:07,660 --> 00:11:10,010 - If Jay Hormel were here today, if George A. Hormel 191 00:11:10,010 --> 00:11:12,920 were here today, they'd probably be 192 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:14,893 doing the exact same thing as we are. 193 00:11:24,763 --> 00:11:27,640 - I think unions are getting their teeth kicked in. 194 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,160 I think if you're into a situation 195 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,317 of where you're getting beat up, 196 00:11:33,317 --> 00:11:35,067 you better try something different. 197 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,430 - [Reporter] Corporate Campaigns initiated by Ray Rogers 198 00:11:38,430 --> 00:11:39,550 and other labor strategists. 199 00:11:39,550 --> 00:11:41,260 - [Reporter] Rogers has been used to targeting 200 00:11:41,260 --> 00:11:42,210 on one enemy, the employer. 201 00:11:42,210 --> 00:11:44,510 - [Reporter] Ray Rogers brought his Corporate Campaign 202 00:11:44,510 --> 00:11:45,343 here for an eight week stay. 203 00:11:45,343 --> 00:11:47,390 - [Jim] We were very ineffective 204 00:11:47,390 --> 00:11:49,120 in communicating our message. 205 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,820 - [Reporter] He managed to attract reporters 206 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:53,380 from the New York Times and Chicago Tribute-- 207 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,870 - [Jim] I ran across an article on Ray Rogers 208 00:11:55,870 --> 00:11:57,213 and gave him a call. 209 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,190 He said he needed to do a little research, 210 00:12:02,190 --> 00:12:05,220 because he was a vegetarian and didn't know 211 00:12:05,220 --> 00:12:06,753 anything about meat packing. 212 00:12:11,220 --> 00:12:14,073 Ray came and made a presentation to our membership. 213 00:12:18,210 --> 00:12:21,590 - We will run a multi-million dollar campaign, 214 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:24,633 even though you don't have millions of dollars. 215 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:29,030 The greatest resource, the greatest strength you have, 216 00:12:29,030 --> 00:12:30,603 is the people themselves. 217 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:35,590 And that's why we feel so confident that we can pull off 218 00:12:35,590 --> 00:12:38,830 a major victory, not just a local P-9 in Austin, 219 00:12:38,830 --> 00:12:41,591 but for labor throughout this entire country. 220 00:12:41,591 --> 00:12:44,508 (crowd applauding) 221 00:13:03,354 --> 00:13:07,437 (people laughing and chattering) 222 00:13:09,868 --> 00:13:12,434 - Congratulations, partner. - Yeah. 223 00:13:12,434 --> 00:13:16,570 - The price in poker just went up, at least in this game. 224 00:13:16,570 --> 00:13:18,260 Because that's the way the company views it, 225 00:13:18,260 --> 00:13:20,573 it's a game the way they want to treat people, 226 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,550 hold their whole lives in jeopardy, 227 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:28,823 and to them it might be a game, and to us it's a war. 228 00:13:30,930 --> 00:13:33,090 - Things can really start moving now. 229 00:13:33,090 --> 00:13:35,113 - Super, this is really nice. 230 00:13:37,090 --> 00:13:39,690 - And we hope that the corporate executives 231 00:13:39,690 --> 00:13:42,250 from Hormel come, we hope the corporate executives 232 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:44,680 from the bank come, and we want everybody to see 233 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,370 the type of program we plan on running, 234 00:13:47,370 --> 00:13:51,040 and then let them begin to lose the night sleep 235 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,350 like they have caused the people of this community 236 00:13:53,350 --> 00:13:54,190 to lose sleep. 237 00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:56,940 (crowd cheering) 238 00:13:58,629 --> 00:13:59,462 - [Crowd] We're gonna win! 239 00:13:59,462 --> 00:14:00,633 We're gonna win! 240 00:14:00,633 --> 00:14:01,740 We're gonna win! 241 00:14:01,740 --> 00:14:03,118 We're gonna win! 242 00:14:03,118 --> 00:14:04,638 We're gonna win! 243 00:14:04,638 --> 00:14:05,753 We're gonna win! 244 00:14:05,753 --> 00:14:07,009 We're gonna win! 245 00:14:07,009 --> 00:14:08,364 We're gonna win! 246 00:14:08,364 --> 00:14:10,423 We're gonna win! 247 00:14:10,423 --> 00:14:11,561 We're gonna win! 248 00:14:11,561 --> 00:14:14,097 - On our staff, we have experts on all facets 249 00:14:14,097 --> 00:14:17,780 of research and analysis, communications experts, 250 00:14:17,780 --> 00:14:20,030 and people who are experts in all facets 251 00:14:20,030 --> 00:14:22,017 of political and community organization. 252 00:14:22,017 --> 00:14:24,670 Now we looked out there in society and we saw 253 00:14:24,670 --> 00:14:26,230 poor working people getting their daylights 254 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:28,060 kicked out of them, and we felt that there had to be 255 00:14:28,060 --> 00:14:29,757 a mechanism that they could turn to, 256 00:14:29,757 --> 00:14:31,650 and unions could turn to, and community groups 257 00:14:31,650 --> 00:14:34,050 could turn to, that had a lot of expertise 258 00:14:34,050 --> 00:14:36,890 in how to really challenge powerful adversaries 259 00:14:36,890 --> 00:14:38,710 who were irresponsible in their policies 260 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:39,840 directed at workers. 261 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,520 So we developed corporate campaign programs, 262 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,335 and our campaign is one of taking the offense, 263 00:14:45,335 --> 00:14:47,360 showing workers to move ahead and fight back, 264 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,310 that they don't have to keep taking one loss after another. 265 00:14:53,149 --> 00:14:54,590 You know what you need to do. 266 00:14:54,590 --> 00:14:56,330 - [Jim] Ray told me, you're never going 267 00:14:56,330 --> 00:15:00,900 to outspend a company, public relations wise. 268 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:04,030 - My name is Ray Rogers, I'm with Corporate Campaigning. 269 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:06,560 - [Jim] That what you needed to do was look at 270 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,870 creating a situation that became a newsworthy situation. 271 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:13,210 - Company spent tens of millions of dollars and many years 272 00:15:13,210 --> 00:15:14,900 build an image and reputation 273 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:16,400 That's being destroyed overnight-- 274 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,670 - [Jim] The strategy was to go after the money 275 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:21,060 behind the corporation. 276 00:15:21,060 --> 00:15:22,610 - [Ray] We know there's a lot of labor money 277 00:15:22,610 --> 00:15:24,120 in First Bank's system. 278 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,010 - [Reporter] Ray Rogers and his Corporate Campaign 279 00:15:26,010 --> 00:15:29,384 mailed this letter to over 5000 union members in the Midwest 280 00:15:29,384 --> 00:15:32,160 that says in part the First Bank system 281 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,770 is a principle stock holder in the Hormel company, 282 00:15:34,770 --> 00:15:37,378 and thus can influence policy. 283 00:15:37,378 --> 00:15:39,713 - This institution is directly involved 284 00:15:39,713 --> 00:15:42,360 in the policy making process of Hormel. 285 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:46,290 - [Jim] Ray knows how to put labor's best foot forward 286 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,430 so that John Q. Public would sympathize with our cause. 287 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:52,570 - There's some guy I'd never seen, 288 00:15:52,570 --> 00:15:54,910 he was dropping to get a car, they started talking to me 289 00:15:54,910 --> 00:15:56,950 about how is that Hormel situation going, 290 00:15:56,950 --> 00:15:57,783 the guy turned around he says, 291 00:15:57,783 --> 00:15:59,720 "Are you the guy that's been brought in?" 292 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:01,337 And he says, "Man I'm telling ya, 293 00:16:01,337 --> 00:16:03,187 "you can't imagine how many of my friends 294 00:16:03,187 --> 00:16:05,737 "are watching this thing and we're 100% behind you, 295 00:16:05,737 --> 00:16:07,737 "and you're teaching this country something, 296 00:16:07,737 --> 00:16:09,500 "and by God, you gotta win." 297 00:16:09,500 --> 00:16:11,900 I mean this is just what I'm getting, everywhere I travel. 298 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:14,870 You are a symbol of something that goes far beyond Austin, 299 00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:15,886 and don't you forget it. 300 00:16:15,886 --> 00:16:18,803 (crowd applauding) 301 00:16:20,350 --> 00:16:24,240 - Local P-9 engaged the services of a labor consultant, 302 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,240 from New York City, Mr. Ray Rogers and Corporate Campaign. 303 00:16:30,820 --> 00:16:33,510 And Mr. Rogers has a different philosophy 304 00:16:33,510 --> 00:16:35,293 about how to deal with companies. 305 00:16:36,190 --> 00:16:37,700 Traditional collective bargaining 306 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:41,003 is not the preferred method that he would use. 307 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,060 His traditional approaches are harassment, 308 00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:49,940 intimidation, and threats, and his rationale 309 00:16:49,940 --> 00:16:52,060 for that mode of approaching an employer 310 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:55,080 is that if you can embarrass a company hard enough 311 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,980 and long enough, you'll bring that company to it's knees, 312 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:02,060 and they will agree to the terms and conditions 313 00:17:02,060 --> 00:17:05,550 of his client unions, the ones that he represents. 314 00:17:05,550 --> 00:17:07,952 So he came to us with that approach. 315 00:17:07,952 --> 00:17:10,229 (crowd chanting) (women laughing) 316 00:17:10,229 --> 00:17:12,183 - There are supposed to be some other pigs here today. 317 00:17:12,183 --> 00:17:17,183 (crowd chanting) (women laughing) 318 00:17:17,679 --> 00:17:18,850 - Okay if anybody doesn't have a sign, 319 00:17:18,850 --> 00:17:21,353 just grab a sign here, if you don't have one. 320 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,980 - From day to day, you get to be such on a high like today 321 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:30,870 with everybody here, but when you go home 322 00:17:30,870 --> 00:17:33,170 and nobody's around you like at home, 323 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:36,360 you tend to get down, but then you get right back up 324 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:38,040 when you go back down to the union hall 325 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,530 and start working and helping out, 326 00:17:39,530 --> 00:17:40,690 then you get up again. 327 00:17:40,690 --> 00:17:42,307 - We're on the right side of things. 328 00:17:42,307 --> 00:17:44,830 The issue's are on our side, the people are realizing 329 00:17:44,830 --> 00:17:47,200 we're willing to fight that fight that needs to be fought. 330 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,550 And people, you know, recognize that the labor movement 331 00:17:49,550 --> 00:17:51,490 being a key factor if we're gonna have 332 00:17:51,490 --> 00:17:55,247 any real meaningful social, economic, cut. 333 00:17:55,247 --> 00:17:58,157 (woman laughing) 334 00:17:58,157 --> 00:18:00,740 (solemn music) 335 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:08,280 - [Barbara] Are you afraid of Corporate Campaign? 336 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,230 - No. 337 00:18:09,230 --> 00:18:10,063 We're not. 338 00:18:10,063 --> 00:18:10,896 As a matter of fact, we-- 339 00:18:10,896 --> 00:18:13,260 - [Barbara] What happens if they persist? 340 00:18:13,260 --> 00:18:14,310 - Well, I don't know. 341 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,320 With our position, I don't know what they can do. 342 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:23,320 I realize that they obviously can say a lot of things, 343 00:18:24,190 --> 00:18:26,360 but they can't do a lot of things, 344 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,580 and I think it's tragic, because the only thing 345 00:18:29,580 --> 00:18:31,727 they can end up doing is destroying their own jobs 346 00:18:31,727 --> 00:18:32,700 and their own company. 347 00:18:32,700 --> 00:18:35,050 - [Man] Thank you all very much, appreciate it. 348 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,243 (machinery rumbling) 349 00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:02,000 - [Barbara] The United Food and Commercial Workers 350 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,463 is the parent union of Austin's local union, P-9. 351 00:19:09,901 --> 00:19:11,850 - The local 9 will suffer as a result of it. 352 00:19:11,850 --> 00:19:13,620 They can't negotiate by themselves. 353 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,640 - [Barbara] Louis Anderson is the director 354 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,890 of the meat packing division. 355 00:19:17,890 --> 00:19:20,531 - And they say this company is a profitable company, 356 00:19:20,531 --> 00:19:23,790 and nothing else in the universe matters, 357 00:19:23,790 --> 00:19:26,540 and we have a right to our $10.69, 358 00:19:26,540 --> 00:19:28,100 we have a right to those benefits, 359 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:29,380 period, that's what they're thinking. 360 00:19:29,380 --> 00:19:31,990 And to go even beyond that there, 361 00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:34,760 they are convinced by Ray Rogers 362 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,780 that the Corporate Campaign will achieve that goal for them. 363 00:19:38,780 --> 00:19:41,900 He went in and shot 'em a line of shit, is all he did. 364 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:43,940 Now the plain fact of the matter is there is 365 00:19:43,940 --> 00:19:48,143 no doubt in my mind whatsoever they are not going to win 366 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:52,610 through the Corporate Campaign, they are not gonna win 367 00:19:52,610 --> 00:19:53,970 if they continue the way they're going, 368 00:19:53,970 --> 00:19:55,290 they're gonna become bigger losers 369 00:19:55,290 --> 00:19:56,810 than what they are right now. 370 00:19:56,810 --> 00:19:59,330 It is going to cost them their jobs, 371 00:19:59,330 --> 00:20:02,511 instead of making $8.25 an hour, $9.25 an hour... 372 00:20:02,511 --> 00:20:06,440 (chattering on radio) 373 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,937 - [Deejay] Brought to you by your friends at (mumbling). 374 00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:13,590 - Used to be, you always had problems. 375 00:20:13,590 --> 00:20:16,460 You always had one or two local unions 376 00:20:16,460 --> 00:20:19,860 that were going through real serious problems, 377 00:20:19,860 --> 00:20:22,127 but you had some time to sit and think about it, 378 00:20:22,127 --> 00:20:24,250 you had some time to get out there and work with them 379 00:20:24,250 --> 00:20:26,130 and stay with them, and help 'em 380 00:20:26,130 --> 00:20:28,210 work through those problems. 381 00:20:28,210 --> 00:20:30,430 But what you've had in the last four or five years 382 00:20:30,430 --> 00:20:33,440 is everybody's had problems, and they've had 'em 383 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,190 all at the same time, and you're just 384 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:37,783 running all over the country in all different directions, 385 00:20:37,783 --> 00:20:39,650 you know, trying to patch things up 386 00:20:39,650 --> 00:20:41,820 and trying to get things going in the right direction, 387 00:20:41,820 --> 00:20:42,882 and then you don't get to stay there, 388 00:20:42,882 --> 00:20:44,060 you have to go take off and you have to go 389 00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:45,353 deal with another crisis. 390 00:20:47,540 --> 00:20:49,840 The companies in this industry are embarked on a program 391 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,770 to tear the wages up, to tear the fringe benefits up, 392 00:20:52,770 --> 00:20:56,673 to return us to the days of the jungle, 60 years ago. 393 00:20:57,819 --> 00:21:00,050 - Do the unions have any clout? 394 00:21:00,050 --> 00:21:02,350 Does the public care about the unions anymore? 395 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Or does, can the union sell this message? 396 00:21:15,008 --> 00:21:16,080 - [Crowd] Go! 397 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:16,913 Go! 398 00:21:16,913 --> 00:21:17,819 Go! 399 00:21:17,819 --> 00:21:18,781 Go! 400 00:21:18,781 --> 00:21:19,820 Go! 401 00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:20,810 Go! 402 00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:21,858 Go! 403 00:21:21,858 --> 00:21:22,770 Go! 404 00:21:22,770 --> 00:21:23,895 Go! 405 00:21:23,895 --> 00:21:24,728 Go! 406 00:21:24,728 --> 00:21:28,070 - Local unions like P-9 have complete autonomy 407 00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:30,940 to carry on all union business, as long 408 00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:34,800 as they don't violate their international constitution. 409 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:39,390 The international union can only give strategic advice. 410 00:21:39,390 --> 00:21:42,100 - What can you do that we can't do? 411 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,360 So far I haven't seen much. 412 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:44,193 - Oh, really? 413 00:21:45,288 --> 00:21:47,490 Here's your answer. 414 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:48,440 Here's your answer. 415 00:21:50,606 --> 00:21:54,220 You're reading too many things about what Louis Anderson 416 00:21:54,220 --> 00:21:55,750 and some other people are saying. 417 00:21:55,750 --> 00:21:56,583 All right? 418 00:21:56,583 --> 00:21:58,110 All right. 419 00:21:58,110 --> 00:21:59,240 No, I'm not dodging your question. 420 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,330 - That's a question that I was asking you-- 421 00:22:01,330 --> 00:22:02,420 - No I'm not, I'm gonna answer it. 422 00:22:02,420 --> 00:22:04,590 What you do not have, what the international 423 00:22:04,590 --> 00:22:07,370 has not furnished you, what you have not furnished, 424 00:22:07,370 --> 00:22:10,480 is the analysis upon which you build a program 425 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,910 of real, impenetrable economic and political pressure, 426 00:22:13,910 --> 00:22:15,070 harassing a company. 427 00:22:15,070 --> 00:22:17,050 We have developed, I think, some damn good 428 00:22:17,050 --> 00:22:19,550 campaign literature, which I haven't seen 429 00:22:19,550 --> 00:22:21,550 anybody from the international come down here 430 00:22:21,550 --> 00:22:22,930 and give you that kind of direction 431 00:22:22,930 --> 00:22:24,590 or that kind of campaign literature. 432 00:22:24,590 --> 00:22:26,080 - There's one thing I'll credit with ya, 433 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,290 you're a hell of a motivator. 434 00:22:27,290 --> 00:22:29,330 - You have already received millions of dollars' worth 435 00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:33,430 of free and positive publicity for your campaign. 436 00:22:33,430 --> 00:22:34,950 National press coverage. 437 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:35,867 Yes you have. 438 00:22:35,867 --> 00:22:39,176 (crowd cheering) 439 00:22:39,176 --> 00:22:40,542 Now that's your answer. 440 00:22:40,542 --> 00:22:42,876 (crowd cheering) 441 00:22:42,876 --> 00:22:43,835 Hi. 442 00:22:43,835 --> 00:22:47,002 (elevator bell dings) 443 00:22:53,488 --> 00:22:57,316 - Hi. - Hi, are you with P-9? 444 00:22:57,316 --> 00:22:58,649 - Uh-huh. - Okay. 445 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,430 - Is what local 9, proposing up there 446 00:23:06,430 --> 00:23:10,180 with the Corporate Campaign, the answer to the problems 447 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:11,790 that we have seen in the meat packing industry 448 00:23:11,790 --> 00:23:14,220 in the past, and the challenges that were faced 449 00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:17,040 in the meat packing industry for the future. 450 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,010 - Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, too. 451 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:22,450 - Are you saying that regardless of what is decided 452 00:23:22,450 --> 00:23:26,670 by this organization, you're going to go ahead 453 00:23:26,670 --> 00:23:28,720 with that campaign as you've outlined it? 454 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,960 - If the rank and file dictates their gonna resist 455 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,143 these pay cuts, we are gonna resist the pay cuts. 456 00:23:36,510 --> 00:23:40,380 And I guess we would like to see you on our side 457 00:23:40,380 --> 00:23:41,810 in this fight. 458 00:23:41,810 --> 00:23:44,710 - The Austin program, it occurs to us, is symptomatic 459 00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:46,510 of Regan's philosophy. 460 00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:50,400 I'll get mine, and the hell with everybody else. 461 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,070 - Maybe we shouldn't expect every single meat packer 462 00:23:53,070 --> 00:23:54,440 to receive the same wage. 463 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,520 Now wait a minute. 464 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,707 Maybe we need to look at each company and say, 465 00:23:57,707 --> 00:23:59,690 "what is the profitability of the company," 466 00:23:59,690 --> 00:24:02,250 and then base the wages that we expect 467 00:24:02,250 --> 00:24:04,270 from that company based on its profitability. 468 00:24:04,270 --> 00:24:06,880 - God damn it, the guy working at Armor, 469 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,050 six bucks an hour doing the god damn same work 470 00:24:09,050 --> 00:24:10,520 they're doing up there in Austin, Minnesota 471 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,900 deserves the 10.69 too, as well as every other 472 00:24:12,900 --> 00:24:14,190 packing house worker. 473 00:24:14,190 --> 00:24:15,770 And that is what we stand for, 474 00:24:15,770 --> 00:24:17,210 and that is what we gotta do, Ray. 475 00:24:17,210 --> 00:24:20,650 We cannot have one group hanging way up here, 476 00:24:20,650 --> 00:24:22,320 and everybody else down below. 477 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:26,070 It's wrong, it's the wrong kind unions, unionism. 478 00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:28,730 - We're just saying, you know, we've got a program, 479 00:24:28,730 --> 00:24:32,680 we're representing a client and a large group of people, 480 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:34,580 and we're gonna continue to represent them 481 00:24:34,580 --> 00:24:36,580 as long as they want us to. 482 00:24:36,580 --> 00:24:37,920 - [Man] Why won't the International Union 483 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,500 support the Hormel workers? 484 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:42,580 Is $10.69 an hour too much? 485 00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:44,630 - Look, I worked in those packing houses. 486 00:24:45,550 --> 00:24:47,660 I worked for a very anti-unionism employer, 487 00:24:47,660 --> 00:24:49,010 as a beef skin around the kill force, 488 00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:51,937 I know what that work is, and they deserve 489 00:24:51,937 --> 00:24:53,937 $10.69 plus, believe me. 490 00:24:53,937 --> 00:24:56,690 And I know that one of the things that Local 9 has said 491 00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:59,173 to the packing committee is, "well, if we can get 492 00:24:59,173 --> 00:25:02,287 "$10.69 there, that's the shining star 493 00:25:02,287 --> 00:25:04,170 "and everybody will go to that." 494 00:25:04,170 --> 00:25:07,119 But I gotta tell ya, in some 10 or 15 years 495 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,397 of our experience, that's not the case at all. 496 00:25:09,397 --> 00:25:11,230 Either one of two things happen. 497 00:25:11,230 --> 00:25:13,380 Either those operators who are on the low end of the scale 498 00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:18,190 get bigger, or those on the high end of that wage scale 499 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:19,900 just simply say, "the hell with it." 500 00:25:19,900 --> 00:25:21,800 And they go out of business, or they go 501 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,820 close this plant down, and, and go down the road 502 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:26,003 and open up a plant at $5 or $6 an hour. 503 00:25:27,020 --> 00:25:28,650 You know, that would be great if we could do that, 504 00:25:28,650 --> 00:25:31,120 I'd be the first one to say, "hey, let's do it." 505 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,470 But it don't work that way. 506 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,780 - I guess we came in to this thing alone, 507 00:25:35,780 --> 00:25:36,930 and we'll go out alone. 508 00:25:39,783 --> 00:25:41,483 - I wanna tell ya, I am disgusted. 509 00:25:42,443 --> 00:25:44,853 Being associated with this organization. 510 00:25:45,890 --> 00:25:46,740 You've got to be. 511 00:25:47,702 --> 00:25:49,513 (man mumbling) Yeah. 512 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:53,660 We got a lot of gutless people here. 513 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:55,510 - [Narrator] We pleaded with the National Union 514 00:25:55,510 --> 00:25:58,300 that if they couldn't support us, just get out of the way. 515 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:00,160 If you're gonna get in the way and run interference 516 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,050 for the Hormel company, then we're gonna 517 00:26:02,050 --> 00:26:04,414 go right through you if we have to. 518 00:26:04,414 --> 00:26:06,997 (upbeat music) 519 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,930 - So you've got the International Union looking at it, 520 00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:20,667 saying, "if these people are successful, 521 00:26:20,667 --> 00:26:23,117 "they may find out that an international union 522 00:26:23,117 --> 00:26:25,087 "isn't necessary, and all they need 523 00:26:25,087 --> 00:26:29,287 "is a labor consultant from time to time." 524 00:26:35,950 --> 00:26:39,090 - Now we now have a situation where some of the people 525 00:26:39,090 --> 00:26:44,029 from local 9, and Ray Rogers, have a caravan 526 00:26:44,029 --> 00:26:47,360 roaming across the country, spieling out 527 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,623 some of the most anti-union venom. 528 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:53,290 - [Narrator] Our caravan was designed to try to tell people 529 00:26:53,290 --> 00:26:56,960 what was going on, from workers just like themselves. 530 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,020 We had the facts, we had the information to back it up, 531 00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,310 and we were gonna tell it to 'em, give it to 'em, 532 00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:05,960 read it to 'em, sing it to 'em, whatever it took. 533 00:27:08,350 --> 00:27:11,610 - And Louis Anderson was making his $70,000 plus salary, 534 00:27:11,610 --> 00:27:13,026 and his lavish expense acct. 535 00:27:13,026 --> 00:27:15,270 - If you think when the public sees that, 536 00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:16,810 that they understand the complexities 537 00:27:16,810 --> 00:27:20,350 of what's going on in Austin, Minnesota, 538 00:27:20,350 --> 00:27:22,500 all they see is 200 or 300 people 539 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:25,245 screaming and hollaring how the union is no good. 540 00:27:25,245 --> 00:27:27,020 - We're not just like some other locals around, 541 00:27:27,020 --> 00:27:30,010 our membership told us that they didn't want that agreement 542 00:27:30,010 --> 00:27:31,920 by 76% vote. 543 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,277 - Get the Hormel chain settlement. 544 00:27:33,277 --> 00:27:35,610 - You think the president or vice president 545 00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:37,380 of an international union oughtta come around 546 00:27:37,380 --> 00:27:39,520 and tell ya that you oughtta take a concession? 547 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,950 When they're by far the most profitable company 548 00:27:41,950 --> 00:27:42,783 in the industry? 549 00:27:42,783 --> 00:27:46,020 - Anti-unionism is oozing out of our own ranks. 550 00:27:46,020 --> 00:27:48,343 That'll destroy us quicker than anything will. 551 00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:52,634 (people chattering) 552 00:28:00,220 --> 00:28:02,910 - All I know is this definitely a union-made tent. 553 00:28:02,910 --> 00:28:05,953 - [Narrator] People who believe in what they're doing 554 00:28:05,953 --> 00:28:09,403 are the most dangerous kind of folks in the world. 555 00:28:09,403 --> 00:28:12,365 And there, 52 and Monroe, and-- 556 00:28:12,365 --> 00:28:15,265 - We'll go hit the banks, and then we'll go up to Ottumwa. 557 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:20,050 - I wanna thank all of you guys from P-9, 558 00:28:20,050 --> 00:28:23,275 because you have performed a miracle 559 00:28:23,275 --> 00:28:25,743 for the Hormel employees Ottumwa. 560 00:28:26,697 --> 00:28:29,447 (crowd cheering) 561 00:28:31,052 --> 00:28:32,700 I can look out in this crowd and see 562 00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:37,270 at least 40 guys and girls that down at work, 563 00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:40,593 for the past seven years, have looked like they were dead, 564 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,262 and you have resurrected them to life. 565 00:28:45,262 --> 00:28:48,012 (crowd cheering) 566 00:28:49,204 --> 00:28:50,090 - Well listen, thanks a lot, great talking to you. 567 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,760 - [Narrator] We're creating a situation where 568 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,890 the membership is starting to dictate to the leadership, 569 00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:01,250 support these guys, because we believe 570 00:29:01,250 --> 00:29:02,350 in what they're doing. 571 00:29:03,930 --> 00:29:07,423 If making less money is so good, 572 00:29:08,425 --> 00:29:10,077 but people don't want to do it, 573 00:29:10,077 --> 00:29:11,998 why should they have to do it? 574 00:29:11,998 --> 00:29:13,482 (people chattering) (horn honking) 575 00:29:13,482 --> 00:29:14,760 - Hormel hot dogs. 576 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,108 We don't like Hormel and their hot dogs! 577 00:29:18,108 --> 00:29:19,528 - [Man] P-9 thanks you! 578 00:29:19,528 --> 00:29:21,308 - We'll be back! 579 00:29:21,308 --> 00:29:23,891 (man shouting) 580 00:29:30,510 --> 00:29:33,700 - They have a machine in place to make you look like 581 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:34,970 you don't know what you're talking about 582 00:29:34,970 --> 00:29:36,790 or carrying the company message. 583 00:29:36,790 --> 00:29:38,803 Rogers and Guyette with their machine that they have, 584 00:29:38,803 --> 00:29:42,200 they have a from grip on that situation. 585 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,800 If you wanna gain your union back, 586 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,670 you're gonna have to recognize, 587 00:29:45,670 --> 00:29:48,170 this is what you're up against. 588 00:29:48,170 --> 00:29:50,880 This meeting is somewhat clandestine in that 589 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,650 if you're going to put together a committee, 590 00:29:53,650 --> 00:29:56,140 then you need to have the time to get it off the ground 591 00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:58,030 without them branding you right at this here 592 00:29:58,030 --> 00:30:00,710 particular moment that the international's behind it. 593 00:30:00,710 --> 00:30:03,190 - It started off with four of us that met two weeks ago 594 00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:06,783 with Lewie, it started off with that group, 595 00:30:06,783 --> 00:30:10,710 we expanded to 16, now we're going to go in a meeting here, 596 00:30:10,710 --> 00:30:12,900 and we're gonna, all of us are gonna 597 00:30:12,900 --> 00:30:14,980 try to sing off the same sheet of music. 598 00:30:14,980 --> 00:30:17,036 Now hopefully, you'll be able to go back to Austin, 599 00:30:17,036 --> 00:30:18,800 and once we get the ball rolling, 600 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,300 we'll all be provided with information. 601 00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:24,890 - So when anybody's attacking what this campaign is doing, 602 00:30:24,890 --> 00:30:26,140 attacking everybody that is working 603 00:30:26,140 --> 00:30:27,980 on this united support group and has done 604 00:30:27,980 --> 00:30:30,350 anything for this campaign, they're attacking 605 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:31,313 every one of us. 606 00:30:32,660 --> 00:30:35,170 - What are we doing that's so anti-union? 607 00:30:35,170 --> 00:30:40,170 I see more union people and more support than I do anywhere. 608 00:30:40,380 --> 00:30:42,560 That's not anti-union. 609 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:43,430 That's going forward. 610 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:45,740 I wanna be a union of the '80s. 611 00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:48,490 (crowd cheering) 612 00:30:51,170 --> 00:30:54,110 - I wanna welcome all of our guests, visitors, 613 00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:56,293 friends, and everyone that is here today. 614 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,860 We have representatives from the Hormel locals in Freemont, 615 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,229 Beloy, Ottumwa. 616 00:31:03,229 --> 00:31:05,765 (upbeat music) 617 00:31:05,765 --> 00:31:09,066 We've got our friends from Farmstead Foods and Albert Lee, 618 00:31:09,066 --> 00:31:11,413 steel workers from the Iron Reign, 619 00:31:12,932 --> 00:31:14,988 representatives from the teamsters-- 620 00:31:14,988 --> 00:31:17,470 - Through good organization with good communications, 621 00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:20,490 we are able to wage a campaign that 622 00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:21,940 even the biggest shoes in the country 623 00:31:21,940 --> 00:31:24,360 heretofore have not been able to wage. 624 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,892 Are you willing to stand up and fight? 625 00:31:25,892 --> 00:31:27,082 (crowd cheering) 626 00:31:27,082 --> 00:31:28,083 Let's stand up! 627 00:31:28,083 --> 00:31:29,871 (crowd cheering) 628 00:31:29,871 --> 00:31:31,508 Give me a W! 629 00:31:31,508 --> 00:31:32,341 Give me an I! 630 00:31:32,341 --> 00:31:33,174 - [Crowd] I! 631 00:31:33,174 --> 00:31:34,007 - Give me an N! 632 00:31:34,007 --> 00:31:34,840 - [Crowd] N! 633 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,737 - What do we got? 634 00:31:35,737 --> 00:31:37,554 - Win! - We're gonna win! 635 00:31:37,554 --> 00:31:38,726 We're gonna win! 636 00:31:38,726 --> 00:31:40,470 We're gonna win! 637 00:31:40,470 --> 00:31:42,320 - [Reporter] To some, he is a prophet, 638 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,290 a messiah who has assembled the tools 639 00:31:44,290 --> 00:31:46,380 that can bring corporate giants to their knees. 640 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:50,000 - This man is an organizational genius. 641 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,783 I mean, there's no getting around that, 642 00:31:51,783 --> 00:31:53,430 he's got all of the bases covered. 643 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:55,270 - People are down in the basement playing pool. 644 00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:57,310 They're playing cards, they're getting together. 645 00:31:57,310 --> 00:32:00,830 There's a lot of things that are going on in that union hall 646 00:32:00,830 --> 00:32:03,160 that probably should've gone on years ago. 647 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,150 - He's kept the hands and minds busy of the people. 648 00:32:06,150 --> 00:32:08,390 - [Reporter] Lewie Anderson is the Austin Union's 649 00:32:08,390 --> 00:32:10,720 international vice president in Washington. 650 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,300 - Our researchers show that Hormel could probably 651 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,590 do more damage to First Bank by taking their money 652 00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:17,430 out of First Bank than what First Bank 653 00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:19,250 could ever do to Hormel. 654 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:21,050 - Well, Lewie's lying, okay? 655 00:32:21,050 --> 00:32:24,590 I want to say this very clear, Lewie is lying. 656 00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:27,530 - I believe he looked at Hormel's history, 657 00:32:27,530 --> 00:32:28,870 he talked to some of the people there, 658 00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:32,140 and he thought once he put a public campaign 659 00:32:32,140 --> 00:32:34,440 with the news media con Hormel, they were gonna crumble. 660 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,751 The strategy, or the research, I should say, 661 00:32:37,751 --> 00:32:40,983 had about as much depth as piss on a flat rock. 662 00:32:42,970 --> 00:32:45,310 How much more damage has to be done 663 00:32:45,310 --> 00:32:49,121 before you figure out that that strategy is not working? 664 00:32:49,121 --> 00:32:49,954 - Bull! 665 00:32:49,954 --> 00:32:51,660 - I don't take anything away from the local 9 666 00:32:51,660 --> 00:32:53,190 in terms of rallying their people. 667 00:32:53,190 --> 00:32:55,370 They've done a good job with it. 668 00:32:55,370 --> 00:32:57,830 But it's a doomed strategy, and it was doomed 669 00:32:57,830 --> 00:33:00,960 from the beginning, and we tried to impress that on them. 670 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,550 Being militant, and standing up, 671 00:33:03,550 --> 00:33:07,510 if you're on the wrong strategy, doesn't make it right. 672 00:33:07,510 --> 00:33:09,380 People still end up getting hurt, 673 00:33:09,380 --> 00:33:11,480 rates still continue to tumble, 674 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,617 you don't have the luxury of just saying, 675 00:33:13,617 --> 00:33:15,570 "at least we're fighting." 676 00:33:15,570 --> 00:33:17,620 Because when you fight and it's all over with, 677 00:33:17,620 --> 00:33:19,220 and you've lost everything, then that's 678 00:33:19,220 --> 00:33:22,783 a terrible price to pay just to say that you were tough. 679 00:33:22,783 --> 00:33:24,410 (crowd booing) 680 00:33:24,410 --> 00:33:26,690 - What we're doing makes sense, and we believe in it. 681 00:33:26,690 --> 00:33:30,688 And belief is something that will carry you a long ways. 682 00:33:30,688 --> 00:33:33,438 (crowd cheering) 683 00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:48,453 (solemn music) 684 00:33:50,084 --> 00:33:52,690 - [Barbara] Hormel's proposal keeps a base wage frozen 685 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:55,910 for three years at $10 per hour, 686 00:33:55,910 --> 00:33:57,907 and any new employees would be paid 687 00:33:57,907 --> 00:34:00,373 $2 less for the same work. 688 00:34:04,740 --> 00:34:07,390 Hormel's final offer is rejected 689 00:34:07,390 --> 00:34:11,161 by both the local union and the international. 690 00:34:11,161 --> 00:34:14,100 - Well certainly, if we're faced with a situation where 691 00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,380 there is a withholding of labor on one side, 692 00:34:17,380 --> 00:34:20,990 we could shut the plant down completely, 693 00:34:20,990 --> 00:34:24,390 we could try to run the plant with management employees 694 00:34:24,390 --> 00:34:28,470 on a reduced basis, we could hire temporary replacements 695 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:31,548 for strikers who would like to stay out, 696 00:34:31,548 --> 00:34:33,990 or we could hire permanent replacements 697 00:34:33,990 --> 00:34:36,633 for strikers who would like to stay out. 698 00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:40,843 Any combination of those things. 699 00:34:43,350 --> 00:34:45,410 - We'll send the letter tonight, then. 700 00:34:45,410 --> 00:34:46,243 Right guys? 701 00:34:47,195 --> 00:34:49,180 When we hand-deliver the letter, it'll mean 702 00:34:49,180 --> 00:34:53,377 that we're gonna be on strike as of midnight on Friday. 703 00:34:56,530 --> 00:35:00,050 You wanna get that set up in the main hall? 704 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:01,660 - You get your story here, and make sure 705 00:35:01,660 --> 00:35:03,310 everybody hears about it, really. 706 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:05,584 Just go ahead and. 707 00:35:05,584 --> 00:35:07,070 (people chattering) 708 00:35:07,070 --> 00:35:09,880 - Oh, come on. - Ah, this is your show. 709 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,815 (crowd cheering) 710 00:35:10,815 --> 00:35:13,330 - [Narrator] The Hormel company put us into a corner, 711 00:35:13,330 --> 00:35:15,470 and we were gonna come out after 'em. 712 00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:17,670 Much like a fighter going into a fight, 713 00:35:17,670 --> 00:35:21,033 when you know you've trained about as well as you can, 714 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,530 it's time to get the gloves on or take 'em off 715 00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:25,987 and do what you gotta do, I guess. 716 00:35:25,987 --> 00:35:30,987 - By over a 93% margin, the contract proposal 717 00:35:31,690 --> 00:35:35,110 termed by the company to be their last 718 00:35:35,110 --> 00:35:37,590 and final offer was rejected. 719 00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:41,040 So the executive board has met, and we intend 720 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:45,470 to give the company a 48-hour working day notice 721 00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:47,740 tonight before midnight. 722 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:50,120 (crowd cheering) 723 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,730 - [Barbara] For the first time in 52 years, 724 00:35:52,730 --> 00:35:57,033 Hormel's Austin plant was about to be shut down by a strike. 725 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,620 - [Man] You're looking pretty chipper today. 726 00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:04,278 - Hi, Bill. - Hiya, Jim. 727 00:36:04,278 --> 00:36:06,230 - [Jim] Too bad we can't meet under better circumstances. 728 00:36:06,230 --> 00:36:07,429 - You bet. 729 00:36:07,429 --> 00:36:11,183 - I need you to sign, in fact, if you want to sign 730 00:36:11,183 --> 00:36:13,516 a couple of them, you can... 731 00:36:16,510 --> 00:36:19,460 - We got new pencils for everyone, just like the president. 732 00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,983 - No we don't, that's mine. 733 00:36:26,730 --> 00:36:28,509 - Okay. - Okay. 734 00:36:28,509 --> 00:36:29,926 - Very good, Jim. 735 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:32,160 (solemn music) 736 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,630 - What ultimately may result from the Hormel workers' 737 00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:37,560 action is a test of just how much muscle 738 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,990 organized labor can or cannot flex. 739 00:36:40,990 --> 00:36:43,973 Kevin Burger, Channel 5, Eyewitness news, St. Paul. 740 00:36:45,201 --> 00:36:50,201 (horn honking) (siren wailing) 741 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,590 - I think it is tragic. 742 00:36:56,660 --> 00:36:59,760 We were hoping upon hope that some resolve would be reached 743 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,493 and so that this community, and certainly our employees 744 00:37:02,493 --> 00:37:04,890 that work at the plant, wouldn't have to go through 745 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:06,360 what we are now facing. 746 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,650 We think that we have done everything humanly possible 747 00:37:08,650 --> 00:37:11,920 to bring a resolve to this thing on reasonable terms. 748 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,330 But we aren't going to get a resolve to this dispute 749 00:37:14,330 --> 00:37:15,420 on un-reasonable terms. 750 00:37:15,420 --> 00:37:18,040 - The company's strategy's a clear one. 751 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,513 They want to freeze us out, they want to starve us out. 752 00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:26,100 And I think the motto that we at Local 9 have 753 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:30,010 is best exemplified in one of Bruce Springsteen's 754 00:37:30,010 --> 00:37:31,713 latest songs. 755 00:37:32,837 --> 00:37:37,137 "We made a promise, we swore, we'd always remember, 756 00:37:37,137 --> 00:37:40,220 "no retreat, and no surrender." 757 00:37:40,220 --> 00:37:43,890 And I think that the fact that these people are here today 758 00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:47,310 helping us so that the company can't starve us out 759 00:37:47,310 --> 00:37:50,800 is certainly a giant push well on the way 760 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,800 to let this company know that we are not about to surrender. 761 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,121 (crowd cheering) 762 00:37:57,121 --> 00:38:00,121 (people chattering) 763 00:38:08,881 --> 00:38:13,070 - What we started is something that's gonna 764 00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:16,940 be more than maybe what we thought. 765 00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:19,740 Seeing people working together, people willing to share, 766 00:38:20,780 --> 00:38:22,270 people borrowing clothes from each other, 767 00:38:22,270 --> 00:38:25,700 I've seen people opening up, I seen people crying, 768 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:26,860 you know, and it's just something that, 769 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:29,890 it's a whole new part of people, and I think 770 00:38:29,890 --> 00:38:32,855 we're pulling together, you know, a big family. 771 00:38:32,855 --> 00:38:36,632 - You know, just so it doesn't, you know, takes too long, 772 00:38:36,632 --> 00:38:38,590 people are gonna get short on cash 773 00:38:38,590 --> 00:38:41,520 and then they're gonna feel the squeeze really bad. 774 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,680 - My kid just, what, five weeks ago, 775 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,780 he got his finger in the door, at home, okay, 776 00:38:46,780 --> 00:38:48,840 it was just one of those freak accidents. 777 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,650 Went in and had three stitches put in, 120 bucks. 778 00:38:51,650 --> 00:38:53,243 There went half my paycheck. 779 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:56,860 - This money is to be used for food 780 00:38:58,390 --> 00:38:59,990 for the people of the Local P-9. 781 00:39:01,475 --> 00:39:04,225 (crowd cheering) 782 00:39:06,606 --> 00:39:08,023 I can't even add. 783 00:39:10,084 --> 00:39:12,160 I can't even add. 784 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,173 1000. 785 00:39:15,882 --> 00:39:18,642 100. 786 00:39:18,642 --> 00:39:21,392 (crowd laughing) 787 00:39:23,552 --> 00:39:25,450 $49! 788 00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:30,260 Over, almost $1050 and they're not done yet. 789 00:39:30,260 --> 00:39:33,457 Take it and run with it. (crowd cheering) 790 00:39:33,457 --> 00:39:36,380 - And I can tell you that this money will be 791 00:39:36,380 --> 00:39:38,810 very much needed by our membership, 792 00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:41,524 and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. 793 00:39:41,524 --> 00:39:44,441 (crowd applauding) 794 00:39:48,092 --> 00:39:49,932 (upbeat music) 795 00:39:49,932 --> 00:39:53,280 - Hey, Joe... (mumbling) 796 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,810 - [Narrator] Our Union Hall became a fun place to be at. 797 00:39:56,810 --> 00:39:59,290 There was a lot of things going on. 798 00:39:59,290 --> 00:40:03,390 It became a place where families could come. 799 00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:06,270 We had a lot of folks who liked to work on cars. 800 00:40:06,270 --> 00:40:09,373 Instead of pulling picket duty, they fixed our cars. 801 00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:15,570 We had carpenters who fixed people's homes. 802 00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:18,320 They did what they liked to do, they did their hobbies. 803 00:40:30,070 --> 00:40:33,710 - I asked Guyette, tell me where Corporate Campaign 804 00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:35,857 is today, tell me where it's going week 805 00:40:35,857 --> 00:40:38,460 and the following weeks, and relate that 806 00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:40,660 to how we're getting back in the packing house. 807 00:40:40,660 --> 00:40:42,960 All they did is the same old jibberish, 808 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,080 we got a group going here, we're getting support, 809 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,360 we got money coming in. 810 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,027 They start with this jibberish, and you say, 811 00:40:48,027 --> 00:40:49,667 "now wait a minute, I didn't ask you that." 812 00:40:49,667 --> 00:40:51,370 "Let him speak, let him speak," 813 00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:54,010 and then Rogers gets into his filibuster. 814 00:40:54,010 --> 00:40:56,430 They roll, and then all of a sudden it's boom! 815 00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:57,950 Next question, what do you got? 816 00:40:57,950 --> 00:41:00,120 I was in Otama last week, and the guy, 817 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,500 they were patting me on the back, 818 00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,020 and you know, and this guy gets in, 819 00:41:03,020 --> 00:41:04,306 he talks for 10 or 15 minutes. 820 00:41:04,306 --> 00:41:06,700 - When he gets up to start his filibuster operation, 821 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:08,800 you gotta have seven, eight, nine, 10 people stand up 822 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,397 and say "look, tell me how you're gonna get the jobs back, 823 00:41:11,397 --> 00:41:13,460 "tell me how you're gonna get a contract." 824 00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:15,510 - Main thing is you gotta keep pounding it in to 'em. 825 00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:18,130 Where are you as far as settling this thing 826 00:41:18,130 --> 00:41:19,080 or trying to settle it? 827 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:20,880 - I mean, you got some maniacs up there, 828 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,790 in the leadership positions, and a maniac in Rogers, 829 00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:26,443 who has yet to do one positive thing. 830 00:41:31,930 --> 00:41:34,281 - We can't be jacking around here forever. 831 00:41:34,281 --> 00:41:36,050 (man mumbling) 832 00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:37,180 - This is a mess. 833 00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:39,577 - [Man] That's what I'm saying. 834 00:41:39,577 --> 00:41:44,423 - Every employee shall receive his normal 40 hours' pay. 835 00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:49,310 - Vacation pay shall consist of an employee's 836 00:41:49,310 --> 00:41:52,440 normal 40-hour weekly check. 837 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,090 - [Man] Yeah, that's good enough. 838 00:41:56,324 --> 00:41:58,090 - [Narrator] Normally, the national union 839 00:41:58,090 --> 00:42:00,340 managed negotiations. 840 00:42:00,340 --> 00:42:03,140 However, in this particular situation, 841 00:42:03,140 --> 00:42:06,810 our national union was spear-heading a concessionary drive 842 00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:09,853 and we didn't want a concessionary contract. 843 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:15,747 Therefore, our national union was told, "get out of the way, 844 00:42:15,747 --> 00:42:18,710 "we'll deal with our own negotiations." 845 00:42:18,710 --> 00:42:20,260 - [Man] It don't mean anything. 846 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,890 - When the union made a proposal to us 847 00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:27,470 that we thought was outrageous, what we had to do 848 00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:29,900 is come back with a proposal of our own. 849 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:33,150 And instead of just basing it blindly on the old contract, 850 00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:34,930 we looked at every provision of that agreement 851 00:42:34,930 --> 00:42:37,210 and said, "well now, what would make sense here?" 852 00:42:37,210 --> 00:42:38,390 - [Woman] Who's gonna pay for that? 853 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:39,652 - [Man] The company. 854 00:42:39,652 --> 00:42:41,677 - [Man] And what is it? 855 00:42:41,677 --> 00:42:43,800 - [Man] Just management labor-- 856 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,790 - Now, any seasoned, experienced negotiator knows 857 00:42:46,790 --> 00:42:49,373 you don't rewrite your whole contract. 858 00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:55,110 You don't throw your whole contract up for grabs. 859 00:42:55,110 --> 00:42:57,460 You don't give the company the opportunity 860 00:42:57,460 --> 00:43:00,783 to dismantle your contract because you rewrote it. 861 00:43:02,610 --> 00:43:05,150 But that's just exactly what the Local P-9 leadership did. 862 00:43:05,150 --> 00:43:07,560 They rewrote a whole contract, 863 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,490 language that has taken 40 years to negotiate. 864 00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:12,700 Language that provides the local union 865 00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,233 to have a say in how the goddamn plan is run. 866 00:43:16,668 --> 00:43:18,550 And what management got done with that there contract, 867 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:20,560 those things didn't exist anymore. 868 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,740 And I'm speaking to 40 years bargaining gone 869 00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:27,480 as a result of these assholes rewriting that whole contract 870 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,130 and submitting it to the company. 871 00:43:41,972 --> 00:43:44,555 (solemn music) 872 00:44:03,420 --> 00:44:07,840 Being a negotiator, requires a lot of different skills, 873 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,180 and especially in an industry that's 874 00:44:09,180 --> 00:44:10,663 in terminal like this one. 875 00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:14,610 Nobody likes to have their wages and benefits rolled back. 876 00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:18,450 And it's unconscionable to put out this kind of proposal 877 00:44:18,450 --> 00:44:21,530 after all of the concessions that these workers have made. 878 00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:23,105 - What's your reaction to that, Ted? 879 00:44:23,105 --> 00:44:24,430 - What's next? 880 00:44:24,430 --> 00:44:25,813 - No further comment on that. 881 00:44:28,940 --> 00:44:31,900 All I can do is take a peak at their god damn vaults 882 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:33,030 and see if there's any money in there, and if there is, 883 00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:34,997 then we all run in there and we grab as much as we can 884 00:44:34,997 --> 00:44:37,155 and we get the hell out. 885 00:44:37,155 --> 00:44:39,760 (crowd laughing) 886 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,157 - Negotiations have broke off, 887 00:44:42,157 --> 00:44:44,560 and there are no further meetings scheduled. 888 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,060 - That's pure un-adulterated bullshit. 889 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:48,610 What's holding up a contract settlement 890 00:44:48,610 --> 00:44:52,030 is that these bastards won't give you a decent wage, 891 00:44:52,030 --> 00:44:53,770 that's what's holding up the contract settlement. 892 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:57,020 Send your bargaining committee to Chicago 893 00:44:57,020 --> 00:44:59,820 with a vote of confidence that supports them 894 00:44:59,820 --> 00:45:01,620 and tells the company to stick their proposal 895 00:45:01,620 --> 00:45:04,950 where the sun don't shine and give us a decent contract. 896 00:45:04,950 --> 00:45:06,144 Thank you very much. 897 00:45:06,144 --> 00:45:07,140 (crowd cheering) 898 00:45:07,140 --> 00:45:09,130 Sometimes you have to fire the people up 899 00:45:09,130 --> 00:45:11,280 to send a very clear message to management 900 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,750 that the workers are really ticked off. 901 00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:17,200 That they not only want what's right, 902 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,093 they want more than what's right. 903 00:45:20,650 --> 00:45:23,470 - You better be prepared to give a lot back from the-- 904 00:45:23,470 --> 00:45:24,303 - [Man] Where you from? 905 00:45:24,303 --> 00:45:26,120 - You can start looking for another job 906 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:27,060 just like what you're thinking-- 907 00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:28,360 - You wanna come back to these meetings? 908 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,800 - I worked on that goddamn plant and I busted my ass 909 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,985 for you guys for over 18 years on production. 910 00:45:33,985 --> 00:45:36,260 And all of a sudden you put the goddamn hammer down, 911 00:45:36,260 --> 00:45:39,910 and we go from our $10.69 down to $6.50 912 00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:41,630 to walk back in that plant on a Monday. 913 00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:42,640 What's the production-- 914 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,660 - You wanna come back, you keep your mouth shut. 915 00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:46,880 - I took a god damn double-- - Okay? 916 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,940 You don't know what you're talking about. 917 00:45:48,940 --> 00:45:50,077 And I won't take it anymore. 918 00:45:50,077 --> 00:45:52,550 And you want me to walk out, I won't have the courtesy 919 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:54,060 of letting you ask questions, I'll just walk out 920 00:45:54,060 --> 00:45:55,760 the next time you open your mouth. 921 00:46:07,530 --> 00:46:09,450 - [Anderson] The more that the membership 922 00:46:09,450 --> 00:46:14,450 seems unreasonable, the more that the bargaining committee 923 00:46:14,740 --> 00:46:17,033 seems unreasonable, the tougher they are, 924 00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:23,953 the more the employer has to rely on you, as the negotiator. 925 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:27,110 Because you're the one, supposedly, 926 00:46:27,110 --> 00:46:29,123 that has to make common sense prevail. 927 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,554 - I'd like to carve out numbers one and two 928 00:46:32,554 --> 00:46:34,885 and continue to talk with you to see 929 00:46:34,885 --> 00:46:36,000 if there's something we can do, 930 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,580 but I sure haven't come up with anything yet. 931 00:46:37,580 --> 00:46:39,760 - You only do that once you have extracted 932 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,310 the maximum from that employer, 933 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,883 and then you let the membership decide. 934 00:46:47,883 --> 00:46:50,466 (crowd booing) 935 00:46:53,858 --> 00:46:56,858 (people chattering) 936 00:47:01,750 --> 00:47:03,070 - [Anderson] That's always a danger, I guess, 937 00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:04,570 when you fire the troops up, is that you get 938 00:47:04,570 --> 00:47:08,160 their expectations so high, and they really believe 939 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,810 that those expectations can be met, 940 00:47:09,810 --> 00:47:12,040 and if you don't meet 'em, they believe 941 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,823 you haven't done your job, and may even believe 942 00:47:13,823 --> 00:47:15,230 that you sold them out. 943 00:47:15,230 --> 00:47:17,800 - We can't afford to go backwards anymore, 944 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,500 we've went back far enough. 945 00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:21,830 We worked too god damn hard down there 946 00:47:21,830 --> 00:47:24,380 to have to go backwards anymore. 947 00:47:24,380 --> 00:47:27,150 I just say fuck 'em, if they want to close it down, 948 00:47:27,150 --> 00:47:28,390 let 'em close it. 949 00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:30,500 We can all find something else. 950 00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:32,570 We're decent human beings and we deserve 951 00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:34,330 every damn thing we get. 952 00:47:34,330 --> 00:47:38,110 - If you take workers who feel that they're, 953 00:47:38,110 --> 00:47:42,300 been mistreated or misused, they want to get at the heart 954 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:44,410 of the matter, they want to get to that employer. 955 00:47:44,410 --> 00:47:46,457 - And it's their obligation to give it to us, 956 00:47:46,457 --> 00:47:48,300 and if they don't want to give it to us, 957 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:50,338 then piss on 'em, let 'em go. 958 00:47:50,338 --> 00:47:53,255 (crowd applauding) 959 00:47:57,130 --> 00:48:00,263 - Look, between both of you, you want a strike, 960 00:48:01,230 --> 00:48:03,400 you keep snapping at everything for one. 961 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,210 Now, if you want one-- 962 00:48:05,210 --> 00:48:06,043 - [Man] We want some goddamn results, Lewie, 963 00:48:06,043 --> 00:48:07,580 you think it's us? 964 00:48:07,580 --> 00:48:10,210 - Look, look, I can't deliver, 965 00:48:10,210 --> 00:48:12,010 and I don't intend to carry this on. 966 00:48:12,010 --> 00:48:16,098 I can't deliver something that's not there at this time. 967 00:48:16,098 --> 00:48:17,493 I've been banging around-- 968 00:48:17,493 --> 00:48:19,044 - [Man] You can make them set their-- 969 00:48:19,044 --> 00:48:21,400 - Look, quit looking for somebody to run in here 970 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,550 with a fucking white horse! 971 00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:24,959 You don't even know what negotiation, 972 00:48:24,959 --> 00:48:27,060 you don't even know what negotiations is all about 973 00:48:27,060 --> 00:48:28,310 and you come in here and act like you know 974 00:48:28,310 --> 00:48:29,170 every god damn thing. 975 00:48:29,170 --> 00:48:30,530 - I did not come in here and act like 976 00:48:30,530 --> 00:48:32,160 I know everything, Lewie. 977 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:32,993 - The hell you never. 978 00:48:32,993 --> 00:48:35,893 - Our members are asking for are some answers, Lewie! 979 00:48:35,893 --> 00:48:38,000 - Well give your members some answers, then! 980 00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,630 Don't blame the shit on me. 981 00:48:39,630 --> 00:48:42,360 We're the, you know, the easiest goddamn thing to do 982 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,060 is blame somebody for the god damn problem that you're in. 983 00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:46,921 I can't change the circumstances. 984 00:48:46,921 --> 00:48:48,340 - We didn't blame you for the problem we're in, Lewie, 985 00:48:48,340 --> 00:48:49,290 we're saying-- 986 00:48:49,290 --> 00:48:52,860 - The biggest and most powerful threat that you have 987 00:48:52,860 --> 00:48:54,253 is the threat of a strike. 988 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,930 When you actually have to use the strike, 989 00:48:58,930 --> 00:49:01,543 then you're going into an all-out war. 990 00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:04,890 And you have to pick your fights. 991 00:49:04,890 --> 00:49:06,650 You know if I get, if I get a little emotional, 992 00:49:06,650 --> 00:49:08,670 I seem tired about this, you know I just, 993 00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:11,670 this is not jerk-off time, I mean, this is serious business. 994 00:49:13,043 --> 00:49:14,710 You damn well better be able to inflict 995 00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:17,370 some economic damage on that employer. 996 00:49:17,370 --> 00:49:19,720 If you cannot get into his pockets 997 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:21,620 and take a lot of money out of it, 998 00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:24,700 and make the employer understand that it's better 999 00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:26,310 to settle than it is to continue to fight 1000 00:49:26,310 --> 00:49:30,077 or the losses will mount, then the employer will crush you. 1001 00:49:36,212 --> 00:49:38,712 (tense music) 1002 00:49:51,090 --> 00:49:53,740 - [Barbara] Hormel's production has not been stopped. 1003 00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:00,250 The company shifted production to their other plants 1004 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:01,733 that are still in operation. 1005 00:50:13,454 --> 00:50:14,980 In the Austin plant, they are using 1006 00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:17,350 their own management personnel to turn out 1007 00:50:17,350 --> 00:50:19,563 thousands of cans of Spam a day. 1008 00:50:35,790 --> 00:50:38,423 - [Man] It's gotta be blatantly obvious to everyone 1009 00:50:38,423 --> 00:50:41,250 that this company doesn't want a contract. 1010 00:50:41,250 --> 00:50:43,370 - [Man] We're at a crossroads. 1011 00:50:43,370 --> 00:50:45,843 - [Jim] I wanna win the thing. 1012 00:50:46,677 --> 00:50:47,965 - [Man] Wanna win. 1013 00:50:47,965 --> 00:50:50,660 That's no excuse for doing something we shouldn't be doing. 1014 00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:54,966 - Well, all I'm saying is, whatever it takes to win, 1015 00:50:54,966 --> 00:50:56,263 I wanna do it. 1016 00:50:58,710 --> 00:51:00,960 - That potentially is a time bomb that's ticking 1017 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,640 that could blow up in all of our faces. 1018 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,190 The company is gonna end up forcing a settlement 1019 00:51:06,190 --> 00:51:08,500 on those people out there that is gonna be 1020 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,630 way under the Hormel chain settlement 1021 00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:13,060 and under the Oscar-Meyer settlement, 1022 00:51:13,060 --> 00:51:15,420 and here you're gonna have this big company, 1023 00:51:15,420 --> 00:51:18,810 very profitable, that has got a sub-standard agreement 1024 00:51:18,810 --> 00:51:22,120 that's gonna tear the shit out of our rates in the industry. 1025 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,460 I mean, we are gonna negotiate shit 1026 00:51:24,460 --> 00:51:26,910 if they get stuck with a bad settlement up there. 1027 00:51:31,070 --> 00:51:34,290 - You people are believing that we've got the power 1028 00:51:34,290 --> 00:51:35,540 to get them to the table. 1029 00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:40,740 It is my assessment that the reason that we have been 1030 00:51:40,740 --> 00:51:45,680 unsuccessful, the reason that our strategy hasn't worked, 1031 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,180 the reason that we've gone to a four and a half month strike 1032 00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:51,490 is simply that very issue. 1033 00:51:51,490 --> 00:51:53,830 We don't have the strength to get 'em there. 1034 00:51:53,830 --> 00:51:57,280 - The division that some have tried to create here 1035 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,520 has been to our downfall, and I just wish 1036 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,780 that we could act concerted, instead of going off-- 1037 00:52:03,780 --> 00:52:06,890 - The fact is, I think we all realize right now, 1038 00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:11,110 the company is in a very solid and very legal position 1039 00:52:11,110 --> 00:52:13,470 to start that packing-house up without us inside, 1040 00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:15,493 if we don't go back to work. 1041 00:52:15,493 --> 00:52:16,341 (people chattering) 1042 00:52:16,341 --> 00:52:20,780 Now, I think the rank in file here has been misled 1043 00:52:20,780 --> 00:52:22,770 in understanding this company's position. 1044 00:52:22,770 --> 00:52:24,383 - I think the problem is, Jim, 1045 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,360 the company isn't gonna talk to you, period. 1046 00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,277 I mean, they've got a grudge against you, 1047 00:52:30,277 --> 00:52:32,680 and I think you've probably got a grudge against them. 1048 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,580 And I don't care if we offer to go back to work 1049 00:52:36,580 --> 00:52:38,010 at five bucks an hour, the company 1050 00:52:38,010 --> 00:52:41,320 ain't gonna talk to you, or Ray Rogers. 1051 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,153 - [Man] Why don't you talk to them? 1052 00:52:42,153 --> 00:52:45,121 - Because I'm not part of the negotiating board, that's why. 1053 00:52:45,121 --> 00:52:47,954 (people shouting) 1054 00:52:50,414 --> 00:52:51,581 - [Man] Sit down and shut up! 1055 00:52:51,581 --> 00:52:53,007 - Tell you one thing right now. 1056 00:52:53,007 --> 00:52:54,583 (people shouting) 1057 00:52:54,583 --> 00:52:55,500 - Security! 1058 00:52:56,580 --> 00:52:58,779 Did you call 911? 1059 00:52:58,779 --> 00:52:59,612 Get 'em in here. 1060 00:53:00,467 --> 00:53:01,800 Get 'em in here. 1061 00:53:03,006 --> 00:53:05,339 - Will you guys settle down? 1062 00:53:08,498 --> 00:53:10,310 Will you sit down! 1063 00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:13,178 What the hell is the matter with you? 1064 00:53:13,178 --> 00:53:18,178 (feedback ringing) (people shouting) 1065 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:22,480 If you guys have come to fight and not get any damn answers, 1066 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,086 continue, otherwise, sit down. 1067 00:53:25,086 --> 00:53:27,284 (banging) 1068 00:53:27,284 --> 00:53:29,034 It's a union meeting! 1069 00:53:29,970 --> 00:53:32,620 - We have said, until we're blue in the face, 1070 00:53:32,620 --> 00:53:34,870 I don't know how we say it again, 1071 00:53:34,870 --> 00:53:37,290 that we have gone as far as we're going to go, 1072 00:53:37,290 --> 00:53:38,953 that if you want to go into negotiations 1073 00:53:38,953 --> 00:53:42,020 then that means you're going to get more and more and more, 1074 00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:45,720 no, we're not going to give any more. 1075 00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:46,803 - 10 bucks? 1076 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:48,980 - Written in stone, they don't even want 1077 00:53:48,980 --> 00:53:50,060 to talk about it anymore? 1078 00:53:50,060 --> 00:53:52,300 - No. - Other than asking questions. 1079 00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:53,133 - [Man] Yep. 1080 00:53:54,350 --> 00:53:56,012 - There's no bargaining whatsoever? 1081 00:53:56,012 --> 00:53:56,929 - [Man] No. 1082 00:53:58,826 --> 00:53:59,997 - You people think you're winning, 1083 00:53:59,997 --> 00:54:02,274 I really don't think you're winning. 1084 00:54:02,274 --> 00:54:04,593 The company, I don't think, thinks you're winning either. 1085 00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,480 You're at war and they're at war, and they're not giving in. 1086 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:30,920 - The contract that you work under is your decision alone. 1087 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,973 The executive board has recommended an objection. 1088 00:54:35,925 --> 00:54:40,925 I have a family, like you have, and I want to be able 1089 00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:44,990 to say to them, as Hubert Humphrey said, 1090 00:54:44,990 --> 00:54:47,830 I'd rather like 50 years like a tiger 1091 00:54:47,830 --> 00:54:49,430 than a 100 years like a chicken. 1092 00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:53,349 (crowd cheering) 1093 00:55:18,790 --> 00:55:20,630 - [Nyberg] We've got $100 million plant there 1094 00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:21,680 that needs to be run. 1095 00:55:22,690 --> 00:55:25,660 We're taking applications tomorrow from people 1096 00:55:25,660 --> 00:55:27,440 that want to work in that plant, 1097 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,957 and if local P-9 says "we are going to continue 1098 00:55:30,957 --> 00:55:34,673 "to withhold our labor," now the process is underway. 1099 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,120 The union will have rights to their jobs in the plant 1100 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,120 until they've been permanently replaced. 1101 00:56:08,078 --> 00:56:10,259 - There's no bills today. 1102 00:56:10,259 --> 00:56:13,092 (engine rumbling) 1103 00:56:16,207 --> 00:56:18,530 (dog barking) 1104 00:56:18,530 --> 00:56:19,760 You know, when you got a place like this, 1105 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,980 we got four and three quarters acres, and house, 1106 00:56:22,980 --> 00:56:27,400 and lived here seven years, and payments are, you know, 1107 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,670 a couple hundred dollars a month. 1108 00:56:29,670 --> 00:56:32,493 I gotta wife and three kids, and I love 'em. 1109 00:56:33,413 --> 00:56:36,700 They'll understand later, you know, 1110 00:56:36,700 --> 00:56:38,650 if it comes down to losing this place, 1111 00:56:38,650 --> 00:56:40,947 we'll survive, just like a lot of people. 1112 00:56:40,947 --> 00:56:43,060 (dog barking) 1113 00:56:43,060 --> 00:56:44,950 - Well, I gotta give RJ credit. 1114 00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:48,180 At least he made a stand. 1115 00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:52,470 You know, he put himself on one side or the other. 1116 00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:55,633 I'm on the side that's kind of referred to as the P-10ers. 1117 00:56:55,633 --> 00:56:56,800 That was my choice. 1118 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:01,800 RJ decided he wanted to follow Ray Rogers and Jim Guyette. 1119 00:57:03,130 --> 00:57:05,970 - It's a hard decision to make for some people, but, 1120 00:57:05,970 --> 00:57:09,093 it wasn't for me when we took that strike vote. 1121 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,620 Go out there and do it, and be willing to give up things, 1122 00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:15,470 and make things better for us workers 1123 00:57:15,470 --> 00:57:18,834 and workers around the whole United States, union people. 1124 00:57:18,834 --> 00:57:20,484 - We're tired of going backwards. 1125 00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:24,193 But then you have to look at the rest of the economy. 1126 00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:28,110 Throughout the whole nation that's what's happening. 1127 00:57:28,110 --> 00:57:30,920 I guess maybe you have to swallow hard, 1128 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:32,963 but if you want a job, 1129 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,933 you're gonna have to take it I guess a little bit. 1130 00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:45,683 - [Barbara] So are you having problems with your brother? 1131 00:57:46,830 --> 00:57:49,510 - Oh, I won't have any problems, really, 1132 00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:53,053 until he crosses if he crosses that line to scab, then, 1133 00:57:54,810 --> 00:57:56,280 there's nothing worse than a scab, 1134 00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,260 so how could you have anything to do with a scab? 1135 00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:00,570 You know, you guys have been giving in 1136 00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:02,653 and giving in for 23 years. 1137 00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:07,787 And we got unions all over the country watching us, 1138 00:58:07,787 --> 00:58:10,323 counting on us, people are counting on us. 1139 00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:12,470 - [Ron] The hell with them. 1140 00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:15,223 - You know, we got 1400 workers here, 1141 00:58:16,189 --> 00:58:20,170 and we got thousands of people counting on us. 1142 00:58:20,170 --> 00:58:22,347 And sending in money, you know. 1143 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,570 - [Ron] But it's our job, it's not theirs. 1144 00:58:25,570 --> 00:58:27,220 - We knew this strike was coming. 1145 00:58:28,070 --> 00:58:30,400 - We should have avoided it. 1146 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,960 - Well, they didn't want to talk. 1147 00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,560 - The international said, "it's ill-advised." 1148 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,270 You know, "you're on a suicide mission." 1149 00:58:37,270 --> 00:58:38,380 They told us that. 1150 00:58:41,539 --> 00:58:44,122 (solemn music) 1151 00:59:14,620 --> 00:59:17,590 - [Narrator] So far I think I've seen five, let's see, 1152 00:59:17,590 --> 00:59:21,800 one, two, three, four, five, six. 1153 00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:30,363 I think I've seen seven. 1154 00:59:37,270 --> 00:59:38,937 I had to come today. 1155 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:41,910 I had to know what it would be like to see people 1156 00:59:41,910 --> 00:59:45,060 coming in to the place that I spent my whole life in, 1157 00:59:45,060 --> 00:59:46,713 going in and doing my job. 1158 00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:51,563 It's really, really hard to watch this happen. 1159 01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:10,680 I'm never gonna let myself get in a position 1160 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:15,300 like this again, where a group, a minority of assholes 1161 01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:18,270 dictate how I handle the rest of my life. 1162 01:00:18,270 --> 01:00:20,100 - Sometimes ignorance is bliss, I guess. 1163 01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:22,330 - I'll tell you, there will be no blocking 1164 01:00:22,330 --> 01:00:23,990 of the ingress and egress of that plant. 1165 01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:26,420 That plant will operate, people will come in, 1166 01:00:26,420 --> 01:00:30,130 the state police will come down on 'em, and just crush 'em. 1167 01:00:30,130 --> 01:00:31,060 That's what'll happen. 1168 01:00:31,060 --> 01:00:32,840 You can't win that fight there, when I, 1169 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,080 and if the state police can't do it, 1170 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,760 then they'll bring in to do it, but it will be done. 1171 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,959 Now that will demoralize the piss out of them, 1172 01:00:38,959 --> 01:00:40,200 cause you know what they'll be doing? 1173 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,810 They'll be standing there, three people every 50 feet 1174 01:00:42,810 --> 01:00:44,210 with their dick in their hands, 1175 01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:46,347 watching people go in and take their jobs. 1176 01:00:46,347 --> 01:00:48,033 Now that is very demoralizing. 1177 01:00:49,122 --> 01:00:50,323 (crowd laughing) 1178 01:00:50,323 --> 01:00:53,600 - All right, hey look, is everybody here, 1179 01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,160 'cause you gotta do it and be effective. 1180 01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:56,960 - I'd like to know how many people here 1181 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,360 think that they could get up at 3:30, four, 1182 01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,450 whenever the traffic comes in and do it. 1183 01:01:01,450 --> 01:01:02,445 I'm ready right now. 1184 01:01:02,445 --> 01:01:05,445 (people chattering) 1185 01:01:09,499 --> 01:01:10,393 - All right, then we'll see ya 1186 01:01:10,393 --> 01:01:12,226 at four o'clock in the morning! 1187 01:01:12,226 --> 01:01:14,209 (crowd cheering) 1188 01:01:14,209 --> 01:01:16,876 (horns honking) 1189 01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:24,720 - [Reporter] So we might just mention this, 1190 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,990 if you are doing some driving in the area, 1191 01:01:26,990 --> 01:01:30,290 you will be diverted away from the plant, westbound. 1192 01:01:30,290 --> 01:01:31,920 If you're holding up the east side 1193 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,683 of the Hormel Company plant, you will be asked 1194 01:01:33,683 --> 01:01:36,205 to turn your car around and go back 1195 01:01:36,205 --> 01:01:38,270 in the opposite direction. 1196 01:01:38,270 --> 01:01:39,940 - [Reporter] Okay, we just heard from the Austin 1197 01:01:39,940 --> 01:01:42,280 law enforcement center that all the roads 1198 01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,260 surrounding the Hormel Company itself 1199 01:01:45,260 --> 01:01:46,800 now have been blocked off. 1200 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:49,320 - [Reporter] We'll get further reports then, Dan, thank you. 1201 01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:50,756 (people chattering) 1202 01:01:50,756 --> 01:01:53,518 - [Ray] Okay, one thing we should probably tell everybody, 1203 01:01:53,518 --> 01:01:58,024 if the police ask whose in charge, nobody's in charge. 1204 01:01:58,024 --> 01:01:59,069 Okay, we should-- - Nobody's in charge. 1205 01:01:59,069 --> 01:02:00,577 - [Ray] No ones in charge! 1206 01:02:00,577 --> 01:02:01,410 Listen! 1207 01:02:01,410 --> 01:02:02,430 - [Man] I mean, it's cold outside today, God. 1208 01:02:02,430 --> 01:02:03,320 - [Ray] Right. 1209 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:04,223 - [Man] There's gonna be a lot of cars 1210 01:02:04,223 --> 01:02:05,730 that's gonna freeze up. 1211 01:02:05,730 --> 01:02:08,560 - [Ray] If anybody comes, the police come and ask 1212 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:12,762 who's in charge, there's no one in charge, okay, 1213 01:02:12,762 --> 01:02:15,990 there just happens to be a break down in the traffic jam. 1214 01:02:15,990 --> 01:02:17,740 So there's nobody in charge here. 1215 01:02:18,685 --> 01:02:19,640 - [Man On Megaphone] If there's any interference 1216 01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,477 with police duties, we do not want to make any arrests. 1217 01:02:29,050 --> 01:02:31,811 - I lost eight hours' pay today because of that. 1218 01:02:31,811 --> 01:02:34,670 (people groaning) 1219 01:02:34,670 --> 01:02:36,990 And while that might not seem like an awful lot 1220 01:02:36,990 --> 01:02:39,050 to the P-9 members who have been out on strike 1221 01:02:39,050 --> 01:02:43,160 for five months, it wasn't a thing I chose to do without. 1222 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,780 And I have every right to go in and do my job, 1223 01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:48,650 just as they have every right to go out and picket. 1224 01:02:48,650 --> 01:02:51,130 Mr. Mayor, this isn't a hostage situation, 1225 01:02:51,130 --> 01:02:54,820 this isn't Tiran, Iran, this is Austin, Minnesota. 1226 01:02:54,820 --> 01:02:57,393 They told us that they would not let us in. 1227 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:00,427 That is a lockout. 1228 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,330 - Don't be mad at us, go blame it on the people 1229 01:03:05,330 --> 01:03:06,980 that is causing the problem in the first place, 1230 01:03:06,980 --> 01:03:08,270 and that's across the track. 1231 01:03:08,270 --> 01:03:10,440 - It's them that put you in this position, 1232 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,910 because they put us in this position. 1233 01:03:12,910 --> 01:03:14,880 We don't know whose going in there to do what. 1234 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,960 So in order to stop it, we had to stop everybody 1235 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,487 that goes in to that plant, we had to close it down. 1236 01:03:19,487 --> 01:03:22,020 - I'm not, I don't want to merit right or wrong. 1237 01:03:22,020 --> 01:03:23,923 I don't, I'm not gonna pick sides. 1238 01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:26,410 But I got a question. 1239 01:03:26,410 --> 01:03:29,500 Is what the company's doing, I don't want to discuss 1240 01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,870 moralities, is what the company's doing legal? 1241 01:03:32,870 --> 01:03:34,587 - Everybody out there, they're not out there 1242 01:03:34,587 --> 01:03:36,560 'cause they like the hollerin' and they like to fight 1243 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,380 and they wanna kill somebody. - Okay, but you-- 1244 01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:39,250 - They're out there 'cause they want a contract 1245 01:03:39,250 --> 01:03:42,350 where they can settle where they can go to work. 1246 01:03:42,350 --> 01:03:43,393 We wanna work. 1247 01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:47,760 - This is a, excuse me, this is a tragedy for all of us. 1248 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:49,060 I was born and raised here. 1249 01:03:49,060 --> 01:03:53,260 You know, members of my family that are buried here. 1250 01:03:53,260 --> 01:03:55,930 These people are my friends, on all sides of this issue. 1251 01:03:55,930 --> 01:03:57,790 I've graduated from high school with 'em, 1252 01:03:57,790 --> 01:04:00,570 I went to college with some of these people. 1253 01:04:00,570 --> 01:04:02,170 And this isn't some impersonal thing, 1254 01:04:02,170 --> 01:04:05,160 we're personally involved, whether we want to be or not. 1255 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:07,200 And we would do anything in our power 1256 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,600 to try to resolve this thing. 1257 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,460 It's a difficult situation for both Chief Hoffman 1258 01:04:12,460 --> 01:04:14,670 and I to deal with, I can't tell you what it's like. 1259 01:04:14,670 --> 01:04:15,620 It's tearing us up. 1260 01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:19,567 (tense music) 1261 01:04:55,968 --> 01:04:58,968 - [Man] Left, left, left right left. 1262 01:04:59,912 --> 01:05:02,245 Left, left, left right left. 1263 01:05:14,050 --> 01:05:16,250 - Minnesota governor Rudy Perpich today called out 1264 01:05:16,250 --> 01:05:18,780 the National Guard trying to help maintain order 1265 01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:21,720 as striking union meat packers and their supporters 1266 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,313 blockaded the Hormel plant in Austin, Minnesota. 1267 01:05:26,380 --> 01:05:27,580 - [Man] Hey, your guns are cracked! 1268 01:05:27,580 --> 01:05:28,843 - [Man] Holy shit! 1269 01:05:29,984 --> 01:05:33,620 (people chattering) 1270 01:05:33,620 --> 01:05:34,510 - I don't know if you guys know this, 1271 01:05:34,510 --> 01:05:37,240 but this is your community, not two or three 1272 01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:38,630 of them greedy executives. 1273 01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:41,188 What the hell is the matter with you guys? 1274 01:05:41,188 --> 01:05:42,271 Shut it down! 1275 01:05:46,123 --> 01:05:51,123 - All right, no matter what happens, if anybody gets hit, 1276 01:05:51,140 --> 01:05:55,400 if anybody gets hit, you simply try to identify who it is 1277 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,973 but get back to that haul. 1278 01:05:58,530 --> 01:05:59,660 Now wait a minute, you understand, 1279 01:05:59,660 --> 01:06:01,170 you see what they got here? 1280 01:06:01,170 --> 01:06:02,890 There ain't no way you got a chance 1281 01:06:02,890 --> 01:06:04,373 on dealing with those clubs. 1282 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,133 So you better think rationally. 1283 01:06:08,377 --> 01:06:10,692 I don't want to see you get in a fight 1284 01:06:10,692 --> 01:06:12,692 with the National Guard. 1285 01:06:14,292 --> 01:06:16,560 Okay, remember, if anybody moves on ya, 1286 01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:18,190 just go back to the office. 1287 01:06:20,975 --> 01:06:23,558 (solemn music) 1288 01:06:30,372 --> 01:06:32,830 - There are varying opinions from everyone here 1289 01:06:32,830 --> 01:06:36,730 as to how many people are gonna cross the line, but 1290 01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,003 it sounds as though you're gonna have a stampede situation. 1291 01:06:44,740 --> 01:06:48,030 If what everybody is reflecting is accurate. 1292 01:06:48,030 --> 01:06:51,760 - Let's get our people and tell them the straight shot 1293 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,813 like they deserve. 1294 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,570 Dang, we know we got lots of folks out there 1295 01:06:55,570 --> 01:06:56,900 that are gonna go in there tomorrow, 1296 01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:59,513 because the Guard's gonna let everybody in. 1297 01:07:00,550 --> 01:07:02,113 So let's all go back tomorrow. 1298 01:07:03,690 --> 01:07:04,990 - [Man] I don't think there's gonna be 1299 01:07:04,990 --> 01:07:07,160 that many going in tomorrow. 1300 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,320 - [Man] Shit, I don't think we shot our last shot. 1301 01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:11,060 I'm not ready to give up. 1302 01:07:11,060 --> 01:07:12,663 - [Man] Shit, not me. 1303 01:07:12,663 --> 01:07:14,050 - I got some real problems, guys, 1304 01:07:14,050 --> 01:07:18,060 because I can see tomorrow and you guys can't. 1305 01:07:18,060 --> 01:07:19,913 Boy, that's what makes me sick. 1306 01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:22,473 - [Man] Go and take a couple aspirin, 1307 01:07:22,473 --> 01:07:23,811 get a good night's sleep, you'll probably 1308 01:07:23,811 --> 01:07:25,040 feel better in the morning. 1309 01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,483 - Jesus Christ, I won't feel a bit better. 1310 01:07:30,858 --> 01:07:33,160 - [Man] Left, left, left right left. 1311 01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,573 - [Man] I been outta work for six years, I need a job. 1312 01:07:35,573 --> 01:07:37,090 - Six years? - Six years. 1313 01:07:37,090 --> 01:07:38,580 - [Barbara] How have you been getting by? 1314 01:07:38,580 --> 01:07:39,723 - Just doing odd jobs. 1315 01:07:40,580 --> 01:07:42,030 - [Barbara] Must be hard. 1316 01:07:42,030 --> 01:07:43,380 You ever worked in a packing house? 1317 01:07:43,380 --> 01:07:44,213 - No. 1318 01:07:45,419 --> 01:07:46,490 - [Barbara] 'Kay, where you from? 1319 01:07:46,490 --> 01:07:47,330 - McIntyre. 1320 01:07:47,330 --> 01:07:48,163 - [Barbara] How'd you hear about it? 1321 01:07:48,163 --> 01:07:50,380 - On the news. 1322 01:07:50,380 --> 01:07:52,030 I got neighbors that worked here. 1323 01:07:53,193 --> 01:07:55,685 - [Barbara] Does it feel hard to go across the picket line? 1324 01:07:55,685 --> 01:07:57,020 - No. 1325 01:07:57,020 --> 01:07:59,853 (people shouting) 1326 01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,810 When you go across that line, that's your decision, 1327 01:08:03,810 --> 01:08:05,463 you just don't let it bother you. 1328 01:08:06,900 --> 01:08:07,733 You better be able to stand it 1329 01:08:07,733 --> 01:08:10,343 or you should have never went across. 1330 01:08:13,210 --> 01:08:15,058 - [Barbara] Why are you doing this? 1331 01:08:15,058 --> 01:08:16,140 - Because I need a job. 1332 01:08:16,140 --> 01:08:18,783 - [Barbara] When was the last time you worked? 1333 01:08:18,783 --> 01:08:20,743 - Oh, last spring. 1334 01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:22,600 - [Barbara] Where you from? 1335 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,739 - Austin. 1336 01:08:23,739 --> 01:08:25,156 - [Barbara] Okay. 1337 01:08:29,715 --> 01:08:33,632 - You're crossing a picket line, you're a scab! 1338 01:08:36,954 --> 01:08:39,787 (people shouting) 1339 01:08:51,770 --> 01:08:56,150 - [Jim] Some people may be looking for excuses to go cross, 1340 01:08:56,150 --> 01:09:00,360 but remember that your self respect will be left behind 1341 01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,803 if anyone decides to cross the picket line. 1342 01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:05,820 - You know, my family's starving. 1343 01:09:05,820 --> 01:09:07,960 I'm not getting a damn thing from anybody 1344 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,890 other than $40 a week, just like everybody else in here. 1345 01:09:11,890 --> 01:09:13,350 I want my job. 1346 01:09:13,350 --> 01:09:16,103 Just like everybody in here wants their job. 1347 01:09:17,070 --> 01:09:19,930 I'm seriously considered crossing. 1348 01:09:19,930 --> 01:09:21,861 I'd be a liar if I said I wasn't. 1349 01:09:21,861 --> 01:09:22,790 - [Man] Don't do it! 1350 01:09:22,790 --> 01:09:24,687 - I didn't say I was. - Let him talk! 1351 01:09:24,687 --> 01:09:26,550 - I said I was considering. 1352 01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:28,850 What I'm saying is, a lot of you people, 1353 01:09:28,850 --> 01:09:31,170 and you'd be liars if you say you didn't, 1354 01:09:31,170 --> 01:09:33,270 haven't considered crossing. 1355 01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:35,030 Because we all need jobs. 1356 01:09:35,030 --> 01:09:37,630 - What plan of action is everybody here looking for? 1357 01:09:38,608 --> 01:09:39,441 - Victory. 1358 01:09:39,441 --> 01:09:41,570 - I think we're all looking for some plan of action. 1359 01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:44,940 - Either we gotta shut down every plant that Hormel owns 1360 01:09:44,940 --> 01:09:47,860 Monday morning, or Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday, 1361 01:09:47,860 --> 01:09:50,920 we might as well all go back if we don't shut down 1362 01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,260 their god damn plants and shut 'em down fast, 1363 01:09:53,260 --> 01:09:57,490 so I think that if you guys can't keep going and say, 1364 01:09:57,490 --> 01:10:00,080 I agree, the company says they're not gonna meet, 1365 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,123 they're not gonna give, they company says 1366 01:10:02,123 --> 01:10:04,670 they're not gonna give, they're not gonna give Monday, 1367 01:10:04,670 --> 01:10:05,503 they're not gonna give Tuesday, 1368 01:10:05,503 --> 01:10:07,630 they're not gonna give Wednesday, 1369 01:10:07,630 --> 01:10:11,430 and all that time you got some more guys going in, 1370 01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:14,760 and so what we're all saying is you gotta either 1371 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,690 shut down the other plants, or like you just said, 1372 01:10:17,690 --> 01:10:20,880 all go in en masse and just work without a contract, 1373 01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,690 but its gotta be one or the other, 1374 01:10:22,690 --> 01:10:25,820 it can't be going dragged out and wait for the company 1375 01:10:25,820 --> 01:10:27,860 to give you something, 'cause they're not gonna anyway, 1376 01:10:27,860 --> 01:10:30,703 they told you they ain't gonna give you anything else. 1377 01:10:30,703 --> 01:10:33,620 (crowd applauding) 1378 01:10:36,750 --> 01:10:39,783 - Now we're lookin' at shutting the other operations down. 1379 01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:43,690 Don't you feel that that's a much more 1380 01:10:45,650 --> 01:10:49,770 pressurizing strategy on this company at this time? 1381 01:10:49,770 --> 01:10:53,440 Especially in light of the fact that those people know 1382 01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:56,700 that whatever happens here is gonna happen to them. 1383 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,980 And we need to communicate that with them. 1384 01:10:59,980 --> 01:11:03,350 Don't you think that that's a better position to be into? 1385 01:11:03,350 --> 01:11:05,333 - If ya can't shut 'em down completely, 1386 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,720 you've accomplished nothing other than getting 1387 01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:11,423 a whole lot of people fired and out of work. 1388 01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:15,770 What I'm saying to you is at what cost 1389 01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:21,130 are you prepared to take moving pickets to that plant-- 1390 01:11:21,130 --> 01:11:22,150 - What are you gonna do when the next day, 1391 01:11:22,150 --> 01:11:22,983 they come up to you and say, "you screwed you me 1392 01:11:22,983 --> 01:11:24,930 "out of a job, now what are you gonna do?" 1393 01:11:24,930 --> 01:11:28,940 - No, we know what they, I'll say it, 1394 01:11:28,940 --> 01:11:30,974 hell, there's nothing we can do for 'em. 1395 01:11:30,974 --> 01:11:32,027 It's a risk we take. 1396 01:11:32,027 --> 01:11:33,740 - [Man] Not we take, they take. 1397 01:11:33,740 --> 01:11:35,500 - Okay, the risk they take. 1398 01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:36,530 - [Jim] We all take. 1399 01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:38,535 - Yeah we took it when we went out. 1400 01:11:38,535 --> 01:11:40,440 - Yeah, but we took it, we took it willingly, 1401 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:41,760 and we took it to start with. 1402 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,640 Now all of a sudden for our fight, we're dragging them in. 1403 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,790 - When does the realization come to those folks 1404 01:11:47,790 --> 01:11:50,670 that our fight is indeed their fight? 1405 01:11:50,670 --> 01:11:52,970 When are we gonna do it if we don't do it now? 1406 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,316 - Mr. Nyberg, what will Hormel do if P-9 sets up 1407 01:11:57,316 --> 01:12:00,153 picket lines at your other plants? 1408 01:12:00,153 --> 01:12:03,040 - Our employees know that it is our position 1409 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,971 that they'd be in violation of their contracts 1410 01:12:04,971 --> 01:12:08,920 at those plants if they voluntarily stay out 1411 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:10,940 and honor the picket line of Local P-9, 1412 01:12:10,940 --> 01:12:13,720 or however many pickets there might be there, 1413 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,190 but we know that, if they do stay out, 1414 01:12:16,190 --> 01:12:19,220 that they will be subject to replacement, 1415 01:12:19,220 --> 01:12:22,273 just as employees in Austin are subject to replacement. 1416 01:12:23,470 --> 01:12:25,560 (people chattering) 1417 01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,890 - [Barbara] The executive board of Local P-9 1418 01:12:27,890 --> 01:12:30,990 decided to recommend that the picket line be extended 1419 01:12:30,990 --> 01:12:35,123 to all other Hormel plants, in an attempt to shut them down. 1420 01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:38,260 With that came the promise that if anyone 1421 01:12:38,260 --> 01:12:40,760 at the other plants got fired for honoring 1422 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:45,000 P-9's picket line, no P-9er's would return to their jobs 1423 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,993 until the company agreed to re-hire everyone. 1424 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,893 - You know, when you talk about being illegal, 1425 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,743 at one time, it was illegal to go out on a strike. 1426 01:13:00,050 --> 01:13:02,973 One time, it was illegal to join a union. 1427 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,370 I guess at one time it was illegal 1428 01:13:06,370 --> 01:13:08,663 for America to even exist. 1429 01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:14,040 The executive board has passed a motion, 1430 01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:16,743 roaming pickets will be sent to other plants. 1431 01:13:19,150 --> 01:13:23,183 If this is approved, it'll send a message to the company, 1432 01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:28,390 to everyone else, we made a promise 1433 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,130 we swore we'd always remember. 1434 01:13:32,130 --> 01:13:34,523 No retreat, no surrender. 1435 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,820 Speaking on the motion, it's the unanimous 1436 01:13:41,820 --> 01:13:43,513 executive board recommendation. 1437 01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:49,237 All those in favor of the motion, signify by saying "aye." 1438 01:13:49,237 --> 01:13:51,980 - [Crowd] Aye! 1439 01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:53,080 - [Jim] Those opposed. 1440 01:13:54,107 --> 01:13:55,252 Aye's have her. 1441 01:13:55,252 --> 01:13:58,002 (crowd cheering) 1442 01:14:11,013 --> 01:14:13,960 - [Man On Megaphone] This is a union picket line. 1443 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,283 We ask that you do not cross it. 1444 01:14:17,230 --> 01:14:18,430 - [Protester] Take the day off! 1445 01:14:18,430 --> 01:14:20,810 One damn day is all we ask! 1446 01:14:20,810 --> 01:14:24,020 - All Hormel plants will be shut up tight as a drum 1447 01:14:24,020 --> 01:14:27,960 by Friday, there will be none running, to our knowledge. 1448 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,630 We appreciate your support. 1449 01:14:29,630 --> 01:14:31,837 Go on home and have a cup of coffee, go talk to Mom 1450 01:14:31,837 --> 01:14:33,983 and the kids before they go to school. 1451 01:14:35,100 --> 01:14:37,950 - There's no way on God's creation that I'm gonna 1452 01:14:37,950 --> 01:14:40,885 cross their picket line, and I'm gonna... 1453 01:14:40,885 --> 01:14:43,603 (crowd cheering) 1454 01:14:43,603 --> 01:14:45,750 When I looked at a guy I worked with for seven years, 1455 01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:49,320 I lived in the same time he does, 22 miles up the road, 1456 01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:51,660 and I said to him, I said, "How do you feel?" 1457 01:14:51,660 --> 01:14:53,425 He said, "My heart's pumpin'." 1458 01:14:53,425 --> 01:14:55,462 I looked at another guy I worked with for seven years, 1459 01:14:55,462 --> 01:14:57,111 I said, "How do you feel?" 1460 01:14:57,111 --> 01:14:59,390 He said, "My hearts pumpin'." 1461 01:14:59,390 --> 01:15:00,223 I said, "Guess what?" 1462 01:15:00,223 --> 01:15:02,067 I said, "You're union people, we ain't 1463 01:15:02,067 --> 01:15:04,977 "crossin' no picket lines!" 1464 01:15:04,977 --> 01:15:06,022 We ain't crossin' 'em! 1465 01:15:06,022 --> 01:15:08,772 (crowd cheering) 1466 01:15:12,656 --> 01:15:15,239 (solemn music) 1467 01:15:21,793 --> 01:15:23,830 - What miracle do we expect to happen 1468 01:15:23,830 --> 01:15:26,430 in the next three or four days, that's the question? 1469 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:30,113 What miracle and, and how or why? 1470 01:15:31,660 --> 01:15:35,620 We have tremendous spirit, we've got a wonderful program, 1471 01:15:35,620 --> 01:15:39,300 and we seem to think that if we go one day at a time 1472 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:41,780 like an alcoholic, just one day at a time, 1473 01:15:41,780 --> 01:15:43,530 keep the straggle going one more day, 1474 01:15:43,530 --> 01:15:45,690 and after today's over, we'll keep going tomorrow, 1475 01:15:45,690 --> 01:15:46,590 and then tomorrow. 1476 01:15:48,180 --> 01:15:49,880 What do we expect is gonna happen? 1477 01:15:51,770 --> 01:15:52,603 I'm mystified. 1478 01:15:56,523 --> 01:15:59,356 (people shouting) 1479 01:16:04,495 --> 01:16:06,184 - You damn scabs! 1480 01:16:06,184 --> 01:16:07,027 - Asshole! 1481 01:16:07,027 --> 01:16:09,944 Go to hell, I hope you rot in hell! 1482 01:16:11,004 --> 01:16:13,557 (people shouting) 1483 01:16:13,557 --> 01:16:15,975 - You're the one that really hurts, Steve! 1484 01:16:15,975 --> 01:16:18,660 All these other guys are dicks, but you hurt. 1485 01:16:18,660 --> 01:16:20,860 When you went across there, you really hurt. 1486 01:16:22,430 --> 01:16:23,663 What the hell's the matter with you? 1487 01:16:23,663 --> 01:16:25,850 How can you work with all those scabs? 1488 01:16:25,850 --> 01:16:26,993 Don't it bother you to go in there 1489 01:16:26,993 --> 01:16:29,110 with a class of guys like that? 1490 01:16:29,110 --> 01:16:29,943 It don't, huh? 1491 01:16:29,943 --> 01:16:31,430 - [Man] Then you got no class either! 1492 01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:32,680 - Well, I don't know you. 1493 01:16:34,710 --> 01:16:37,283 I've known that guy since grade school. 1494 01:16:39,071 --> 01:16:41,970 - [Man] Smile, you're on TV! 1495 01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:45,370 - I know it's killing him inside, he's told me that. 1496 01:16:45,370 --> 01:16:47,163 I tried to talk him out of it. 1497 01:16:48,430 --> 01:16:50,373 He said no, it's what he had to do. 1498 01:16:52,830 --> 01:16:55,890 My wife and children have been my backbone. 1499 01:16:55,890 --> 01:17:00,100 They've just, no way, they knew in their minds 1500 01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,083 that if I did, I couldn't live with myself. 1501 01:17:07,605 --> 01:17:09,834 - If things haven't changed substantially 1502 01:17:09,834 --> 01:17:14,834 in two or three days, I will base my decision 1503 01:17:15,570 --> 01:17:18,580 on the fact that my family is number one in my life, 1504 01:17:18,580 --> 01:17:19,810 not my union. 1505 01:17:19,810 --> 01:17:22,890 - [Barbara] Are you gonna go cross the picket line? 1506 01:17:22,890 --> 01:17:26,213 - So it appears, at this stage of the game. 1507 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:32,480 Well, it would be tough, but, I can't see any alternative. 1508 01:17:34,710 --> 01:17:36,730 - And now that we've been working on this 1509 01:17:36,730 --> 01:17:38,960 for a year and a half and trying to figure out 1510 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,120 the difference between right and wrong, 1511 01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:44,400 I believe that I was a doop, I was lied to originally, 1512 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,790 and now, he's got control of my whole life. 1513 01:17:47,790 --> 01:17:50,870 But on the other hand, it's a question of morality, 1514 01:17:50,870 --> 01:17:53,713 because I was brought up that you do not cross 1515 01:17:53,713 --> 01:17:55,080 a picket line no matter what. 1516 01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:56,820 It's just something that you do not to. 1517 01:17:56,820 --> 01:18:00,110 - Because you don't belong to a union all these years 1518 01:18:00,110 --> 01:18:02,260 and develop all these principles, 1519 01:18:02,260 --> 01:18:04,070 it isn't like a dollar bill that you've had 1520 01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:05,790 in your bill fold, you can't just take it out, 1521 01:18:05,790 --> 01:18:06,930 throw it on the ground and be rid of it. 1522 01:18:06,930 --> 01:18:07,763 - No, no. 1523 01:18:07,763 --> 01:18:09,833 As much as I want my job back, 1524 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,670 I still been a good union member for many years. 1525 01:18:14,670 --> 01:18:17,560 But, I don't know. 1526 01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,100 My family comes first. 1527 01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:22,350 - My daughter goes to work, she's got a part time job. 1528 01:18:22,350 --> 01:18:25,510 My boy, he works at McDonald's, part time job. 1529 01:18:25,510 --> 01:18:28,500 My wife goes to work, she's got a job. 1530 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:29,350 And what do I do? 1531 01:18:29,350 --> 01:18:31,800 I sit home and I play with the cat. 1532 01:18:31,800 --> 01:18:33,970 What kind of provider is that? 1533 01:18:33,970 --> 01:18:37,090 - It may sound corny, but a person takes a lot of pride 1534 01:18:37,090 --> 01:18:40,770 in being a bread winner, and providing for your family. 1535 01:18:40,770 --> 01:18:43,227 But when you can't do that, and you say to 'em, 1536 01:18:43,227 --> 01:18:45,267 "all I wanna do is go to work." 1537 01:18:48,370 --> 01:18:49,734 - It's tough. 1538 01:18:49,734 --> 01:18:54,123 But, I spent more than we should've. 1539 01:18:55,510 --> 01:18:57,703 But, I wanna go back to work. 1540 01:18:59,020 --> 01:19:01,670 And, the hell with P-9. 1541 01:19:02,690 --> 01:19:03,523 I'm ready. 1542 01:19:05,350 --> 01:19:06,600 - [Barbara] Is that hard for you? 1543 01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,730 - You bet. 1544 01:19:07,730 --> 01:19:08,563 - [Barbara] Why? 1545 01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,587 - Not being able to, excuse me, provide for my family. 1546 01:19:14,552 --> 01:19:16,719 (sobbing) 1547 01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:25,547 I just can't talk no more. 1548 01:19:34,941 --> 01:19:37,524 (solemn music) 1549 01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:41,293 (people shouting) 1550 01:20:47,727 --> 01:20:49,772 - [Narrator] You're scared. 1551 01:20:49,772 --> 01:20:51,763 You see all them people you've worked with. 1552 01:20:56,577 --> 01:20:59,480 All these people are standing there hollering at you, 1553 01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:01,443 and yet you know you have to go across. 1554 01:21:04,865 --> 01:21:07,050 And there's something in there you think, 1555 01:21:07,050 --> 01:21:09,073 I don't care if you ever come back. 1556 01:21:11,366 --> 01:21:13,610 But you see all these people you talk to everyday, 1557 01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:15,010 and it almost makes you cry. 1558 01:21:15,972 --> 01:21:17,583 They were some good friends of mine. 1559 01:21:25,380 --> 01:21:27,730 That's the ones you feel like you're betraying. 1560 01:21:37,746 --> 01:21:38,579 - Where you guys going? - I'm going to work. 1561 01:21:38,579 --> 01:21:40,920 - [Officer] You got a pass for that? 1562 01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:43,700 - I just, just that Hormel cards. 1563 01:21:43,700 --> 01:21:44,710 You wanna see them? 1564 01:21:44,710 --> 01:21:45,890 - Yeah. 1565 01:21:45,890 --> 01:21:46,910 You new employees, or are ya-- 1566 01:21:46,910 --> 01:21:50,017 - No, no, not by any stretch of the imagination. 1567 01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:54,433 - [Reporter] To some, staying out no longer makes sense. 1568 01:21:55,300 --> 01:21:57,720 There is more here than a town divided, 1569 01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,500 as brother watches brother cross the line. 1570 01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:04,493 In a place not big enough for anyone to hide for very long. 1571 01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:08,703 - He won't be my brother if he crosses the line. 1572 01:22:16,440 --> 01:22:19,490 - For me, it wasn't tough to get, you know, 1573 01:22:19,490 --> 01:22:20,940 get to the point of the gate. 1574 01:22:21,900 --> 01:22:25,183 I was ready to go, but the minute we crossed that line, 1575 01:22:26,370 --> 01:22:28,950 you know, part of me just stayed back there. 1576 01:22:28,950 --> 01:22:32,770 - Well unionism to me is watching out 1577 01:22:32,770 --> 01:22:35,830 not only for your own job, but you're an organization 1578 01:22:35,830 --> 01:22:38,550 for the welfare and benefit of all the workers. 1579 01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:42,663 And now, for this, you know, for this moment, we aren't. 1580 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,367 Because we left 'em. 1581 01:22:49,499 --> 01:22:51,361 - You know, I wasn't always international president, 1582 01:22:51,361 --> 01:22:54,510 you know, I used to work in a grocery store, 1583 01:22:54,510 --> 01:22:58,220 as you know, I know what it is to work for peanuts, 1584 01:22:58,220 --> 01:23:00,660 and you know, you think that I like the fact that we, 1585 01:23:00,660 --> 01:23:02,860 you know, that our people gotta roll our wages 1586 01:23:02,860 --> 01:23:05,560 back a little bit, I don't, but I also, 1587 01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:08,420 I'll tell you what, I don't take people over a cliff. 1588 01:23:08,420 --> 01:23:11,120 There's an old rule in the labor movement. 1589 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:12,970 Anybody can put people on the street. 1590 01:23:14,016 --> 01:23:16,863 It takes a man to put 'em back, I'm sorry I said that. 1591 01:23:16,863 --> 01:23:19,718 It takes a man or a woman to put 'em back to work. 1592 01:23:19,718 --> 01:23:22,600 Now is the time to settle it. 1593 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:24,570 Hopefully we can work it out through the course 1594 01:23:24,570 --> 01:23:25,673 of our local union. 1595 01:23:26,590 --> 01:23:29,803 If we don't, then in a relatively short period of time, 1596 01:23:29,803 --> 01:23:31,389 I'll settle it. 1597 01:23:31,389 --> 01:23:33,060 - I have a question. - I'll settle it. 1598 01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:33,995 - [Man] How will you settle it? 1599 01:23:33,995 --> 01:23:36,960 - I just told you, I'll settle it. 1600 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,767 I have a meeting, thank you. 1601 01:23:40,767 --> 01:23:43,380 - The United Food and Commercial Workers Union today 1602 01:23:43,380 --> 01:23:46,280 ordered 1000 members of its own meat packers local 1603 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,610 to end their bitter seven-month strike 1604 01:23:48,610 --> 01:23:50,900 against Hormel in Austin, Minnesota. 1605 01:23:50,900 --> 01:23:53,420 The international union said it had lifted its sanction 1606 01:23:53,420 --> 01:23:56,470 to the walk out, and cut off $40 a week benefits 1607 01:23:56,470 --> 01:23:59,710 to strikers, but pickets remained in place through the day. 1608 01:23:59,710 --> 01:24:01,810 - [Reporter] It is a strike, those on the line say, 1609 01:24:01,810 --> 01:24:03,970 is becoming symbolic of the struggle 1610 01:24:03,970 --> 01:24:05,863 to keep trade unions alive. 1611 01:24:11,710 --> 01:24:16,060 - If they end up operating that plant, non-union, 1612 01:24:16,060 --> 01:24:19,640 and your guys never get back in there, 1613 01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,730 will you consider that a big god damn defeat for you, 1614 01:24:22,730 --> 01:24:23,563 or not? 1615 01:24:24,830 --> 01:24:28,250 - Number one, if I say there's no way 1616 01:24:28,250 --> 01:24:30,170 I could look at this as a defeat, 1617 01:24:30,170 --> 01:24:31,227 then you're gonna jump on and say, 1618 01:24:31,227 --> 01:24:32,757 "Hey, wait a minute Ray, how the hell can you say that," 1619 01:24:32,757 --> 01:24:34,717 you know, when are you gonna lose? 1620 01:24:34,717 --> 01:24:39,717 All right, and let's talk about what has happened here, 1621 01:24:40,420 --> 01:24:42,060 and let's talk about the various types 1622 01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:44,340 of victory and defeat you can have. 1623 01:24:44,340 --> 01:24:48,460 If all the workers lose their job here, okay, 1624 01:24:48,460 --> 01:24:50,360 that's a scenario that we're playing, 1625 01:24:50,360 --> 01:24:54,220 yeah, that is certainly a defeat, that way. 1626 01:24:54,220 --> 01:24:56,330 But when you consider the kind of fight 1627 01:24:56,330 --> 01:24:57,550 that these people have fought-- 1628 01:24:57,550 --> 01:25:00,720 - You mean, are you saying that 1000 guys lose their jobs, 1629 01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,570 but because they've got intense national attention 1630 01:25:03,570 --> 01:25:05,640 on these very important problems that could confront 1631 01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,890 labor these days, that could still be a victory? 1632 01:25:07,890 --> 01:25:09,627 - No, what I am saying to you, 1633 01:25:09,627 --> 01:25:12,300 there have a been a set of dynamics that has occurred, 1634 01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:14,390 both with all the people in this area, 1635 01:25:14,390 --> 01:25:17,670 within this community, and within the labor movement. 1636 01:25:17,670 --> 01:25:18,503 - Right. - Okay? 1637 01:25:18,503 --> 01:25:19,336 - [William] Okay. 1638 01:25:19,336 --> 01:25:22,113 - That cannot be considered anything but positive. 1639 01:25:26,478 --> 01:25:29,061 (solemn music) 1640 01:25:41,380 --> 01:25:45,990 - [Jim] I think that we at P-9 started 1641 01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:48,043 a small labor dispute. 1642 01:25:48,970 --> 01:25:52,240 It quickly escalated into a labor dispute 1643 01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,243 that represented a lot of things. 1644 01:25:56,350 --> 01:25:59,933 Taking on one of the corporate giants in an industry, 1645 01:26:01,170 --> 01:26:04,060 taking on one of the largest international unions 1646 01:26:04,060 --> 01:26:04,903 in the country. 1647 01:26:06,820 --> 01:26:09,940 And really recognizing the forces 1648 01:26:09,940 --> 01:26:12,083 that working people have to deal with. 1649 01:26:18,790 --> 01:26:23,790 If a small union, in the middle of a cornfield in Minnesota, 1650 01:26:25,170 --> 01:26:28,803 can do the kinds of things we do, 1651 01:26:30,319 --> 01:26:32,923 we just need to get about the business of doing it. 1652 01:26:43,453 --> 01:26:46,620 (indistinct shouting) 1653 01:26:59,950 --> 01:27:02,970 - I don't believe the membership elects leaders 1654 01:27:02,970 --> 01:27:04,923 to be heroes at their expense, 1655 01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,290 talks about dignity and everybody going back together, 1656 01:27:09,290 --> 01:27:12,250 what the hell dignity is there when you don't have a job? 1657 01:27:12,250 --> 01:27:13,673 There's not dignity at all. 1658 01:27:21,369 --> 01:27:24,620 - [Barbara] In June of 1986, the international took over 1659 01:27:24,620 --> 01:27:29,040 the local union and threw out the elected leadership 1660 01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,130 of Local P-9. 1661 01:27:31,130 --> 01:27:34,510 - The main things that the order covers is, 1662 01:27:34,510 --> 01:27:38,193 if anybody physically confronts the UFCW, 1663 01:27:39,320 --> 01:27:43,130 if they remove assets, or if they hold themselves 1664 01:27:43,130 --> 01:27:46,451 out to be representing Local P-9, 1665 01:27:46,451 --> 01:27:48,663 rather than just saying they're a member of P-9. 1666 01:27:48,663 --> 01:27:50,313 - Do I have to say I'm suspended? 1667 01:27:51,219 --> 01:27:53,230 - [Woman] Yeah, I think the order is pretty clear on that. 1668 01:27:53,230 --> 01:27:54,673 - I gotta say I'm suspended? 1669 01:27:58,019 --> 01:28:01,019 (people chattering) 1670 01:28:04,630 --> 01:28:07,540 - [Barbara] The international union negotiated a settlement 1671 01:28:07,540 --> 01:28:11,670 with Hormel, whereby the people who crossed the picket line 1672 01:28:11,670 --> 01:28:13,950 would receive the same wages and benefits 1673 01:28:13,950 --> 01:28:16,613 as the workers at the other Hormel plants. 1674 01:28:17,527 --> 01:28:20,623 $10.25 per hour. 1675 01:28:26,010 --> 01:28:27,950 - We didn't stand by the company, 1676 01:28:27,950 --> 01:28:30,402 we stood by the international union. 1677 01:28:30,402 --> 01:28:32,316 That's where the company-- - Kiss my ass. 1678 01:28:32,316 --> 01:28:33,317 Kiss my ass. 1679 01:28:33,317 --> 01:28:34,700 - You're full of shit, bullshit. 1680 01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:38,030 - You went back there to save your ass, save your job. 1681 01:28:38,030 --> 01:28:40,980 By god, we needed our jobs, we took our chances with Hormel 1682 01:28:40,980 --> 01:28:42,510 with a hope, for Christ's sakes, 1683 01:28:42,510 --> 01:28:45,730 that unionism would somehow still survive. 1684 01:28:45,730 --> 01:28:49,573 We left the union and we went back to our jobs. 1685 01:28:50,830 --> 01:28:52,013 That's where it was. 1686 01:28:53,250 --> 01:28:55,833 (crowd booing) 1687 01:28:56,900 --> 01:28:58,850 - Go ahead you can go ahead you can scream and holler, 1688 01:28:58,850 --> 01:29:01,510 we'll get that out of your system, then we can proceed. 1689 01:29:01,510 --> 01:29:03,410 (crowd jeering) 1690 01:29:03,410 --> 01:29:05,930 - I'm wondering, there's one part in the contract here 1691 01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:10,500 that I must have missed out on that's the part that says 1692 01:29:10,500 --> 01:29:15,250 they have to take me and the rest of all these guys back. 1693 01:29:15,250 --> 01:29:16,400 This is the way I feel. 1694 01:29:17,323 --> 01:29:19,560 Hormel's will never take me back 1695 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:21,360 unless I put it in the contract 1696 01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:23,820 or you people put it in the contract, 1697 01:29:23,820 --> 01:29:25,390 and if that's not in the contract, 1698 01:29:25,390 --> 01:29:28,790 all this bullshit of the contract don't mean nothing to me, 1699 01:29:28,790 --> 01:29:32,100 because how many days vacation or how much of this they get, 1700 01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:33,481 that's what they get, I don't get none of it 1701 01:29:33,481 --> 01:29:35,963 because I didn't get back in the plant. 1702 01:29:37,343 --> 01:29:40,380 - [Barbara] The contract did not contain any provisions 1703 01:29:40,380 --> 01:29:43,420 for the people who honored the picket line. 1704 01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,173 These people were placed on a waiting list. 1705 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,360 - I think it's time, and I think you people realize too, 1706 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:56,860 had we pulled together two years ago, 1707 01:29:56,860 --> 01:29:59,600 I don't think you or us would be faced with this, 1708 01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,870 but I think it's the thing that's going on in America, 1709 01:30:02,870 --> 01:30:05,900 and I think we as men and women have to realize 1710 01:30:05,900 --> 01:30:07,169 we better start pulling together 1711 01:30:07,169 --> 01:30:09,180 or by God, they're gonna bury us. 1712 01:30:48,305 --> 01:30:49,780 - Part of why it's gonna be so hard to leave 1713 01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:52,560 is 'cause I'm gonna have to leave my mom and dad. 1714 01:30:52,560 --> 01:30:55,030 And my dad's still out on strike and I feel like 1715 01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,463 I'm abandoning him, almost. 1716 01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:03,890 We feel like we have to get on with our lives for the kids. 1717 01:31:03,890 --> 01:31:05,740 And they need a normal type of atmosphere 1718 01:31:05,740 --> 01:31:07,100 they can grow up in, and I know my dad 1719 01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:09,550 will be okay 'cause he's a survivor. 1720 01:31:09,550 --> 01:31:12,300 And he knows that we're still behind him 100%. 1721 01:31:12,300 --> 01:31:14,163 We're not abandoning him, we're just, 1722 01:31:15,110 --> 01:31:16,750 taking our fight somewhere else. 1723 01:31:20,762 --> 01:31:24,260 As far as the strike goes, it's just, it was time. 1724 01:31:24,260 --> 01:31:25,620 It was past time. 1725 01:31:25,620 --> 01:31:27,550 And Mike took a stand, and he refused 1726 01:31:27,550 --> 01:31:30,220 to go past the picket line, and I'm glad he wouldn't, 1727 01:31:30,220 --> 01:31:32,213 because I wouldn't have wanted him to. 1728 01:31:35,888 --> 01:31:38,471 (solemn music) 1729 01:31:54,785 --> 01:31:56,060 - [Anderson] You know, you hear this business of, 1730 01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:57,700 well, Jay Hormel, if he was around, 1731 01:31:57,700 --> 01:32:00,930 things wouldn't run this way, or we got this new crop 1732 01:32:00,930 --> 01:32:02,880 of corporate executives in here, and they've changed 1733 01:32:02,880 --> 01:32:05,510 the direction, they're not gonna change nothing. 1734 01:32:05,510 --> 01:32:10,120 Hormel changed because it was to their advantage to change. 1735 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:12,300 They realized there was profits and growth 1736 01:32:12,300 --> 01:32:15,800 by pursuing this strategy, and they did it. 1737 01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:17,332 And all of a sudden they're not so benevolent anymore 1738 01:32:17,332 --> 01:32:18,982 and they're not so paternalistic. 1739 01:32:20,330 --> 01:32:22,730 They become barracudas just like everybody else. 1740 01:32:26,665 --> 01:32:28,047 We just can't look to unions and say, 1741 01:32:28,047 --> 01:32:30,319 "Unions, you gotta stop this." 1742 01:32:30,319 --> 01:32:31,760 It's gonna take a combination of outrage 1743 01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,680 from American people about what corporations do, 1744 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:34,513 forget about whether you support a union 1745 01:32:34,513 --> 01:32:36,060 or you don't support a union. 1746 01:32:36,060 --> 01:32:38,210 Is it right for these companies to do this? 1747 01:32:40,490 --> 01:32:42,970 It just can't be dealt with, just on the picket line 1748 01:32:42,970 --> 01:32:44,783 and just at the bargaining table. 1749 01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:52,873 You're not lookin' at short term fixes here. 1750 01:33:10,281 --> 01:33:12,910 ♪ When the Union's inspiration ♪ 1751 01:33:12,910 --> 01:33:16,128 ♪ Through the workers' blood shall run ♪ 1752 01:33:16,128 --> 01:33:21,128 ♪ There will be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun ♪ 1753 01:33:22,532 --> 01:33:24,784 ♪ Yet what force on Earth is weaker ♪ 1754 01:33:24,784 --> 01:33:28,550 ♪ Than the feeble strength of one ♪ 1755 01:33:28,550 --> 01:33:33,550 ♪ And the union makes us strong ♪ 1756 01:33:34,386 --> 01:33:39,082 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1757 01:33:39,082 --> 01:33:43,998 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1758 01:33:43,998 --> 01:33:48,316 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1759 01:33:48,316 --> 01:33:53,113 ♪ And the union makes us strong ♪ 1760 01:33:53,113 --> 01:33:58,113 (woman singing drowned out by crowd clapping) 1761 01:34:06,904 --> 01:34:11,904 ♪ And the union makes us strong ♪ 1762 01:34:12,055 --> 01:34:16,236 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1763 01:34:16,236 --> 01:34:21,068 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1764 01:34:21,068 --> 01:34:24,958 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1765 01:34:24,958 --> 01:34:29,958 ♪ And the union makes us strong ♪ 1766 01:34:30,263 --> 01:34:34,246 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1767 01:34:34,246 --> 01:34:39,241 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1768 01:34:39,241 --> 01:34:43,063 ♪ Solidarity forever ♪ 1769 01:34:43,063 --> 01:34:46,280 (wind whistling) 1770 01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,863 (solemn music)